[OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

pangoSE pangose at riseup.net
Sun Aug 9 10:58:25 UTC 2020


Also a valid concern worth pondering. I guess having a local snapshot of wikidata on an osm controlled server should fix that. 

Wikibase is free software so we can set up our own in the very unlikely case that no-one else does it. 

Note that both Facebook, Microsoft and Google are dependent on wikidata now so it is very unlikely that it will cease to exist for the near future. 

If it ever becomes unstable someone is going to fork it rather quickly I think. 


James <james2432 at gmail.com> skrev: (9 augusti 2020 11:45:02 CEST)
>is there a contingency plan if wikipedia/wikimedia ceases to exist?
>
>On Sun., Aug. 9, 2020, 4:29 a.m. pangoSE, <pangose at riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> I suggest we create a roadmap for deprecating of storing and updating
>> names in OSM for objects with a Wikidata tag.
>>
>> The rationale is explained here:
>> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/19655
>>
>> This of course affects the whole project and data consumers as well.
>Every
>> OSM user will have to become a Wikidata user as well to edit the
>names or
>> add name references (through the editors)
>>
>> Substantial changes will have to be made:
>> * nominatim will need to support fetching names from wikidata
>somehow. It
>> could probably be done on the fly.
>> * openstreetmap.org will need to fetch from wikidata when displaying
>any
>> object.
>> * rendering the standard map will have to support fetching from
>wikidata.
>> * all editors would have to fetch and enable editing of Wikidata
>objects.
>> * maybe it no longer makes sense to have 2 separate logins? We should
>> unify the logging in as much as possible. Ideas are welcome on how to
>do
>> that. Perhaps retire signing up as OSM user on osm.org and ask users
>to
>> create a Wikimedia account instead and log in with that?
>>
>> I personally don't see any problems connecting Wikimedia and OSM
>closer
>> than the islands they are today.
>>
>> As mentioned in the ticket above data consumers like Mapbox already
>prefer
>> Wikidata names. I'm guessing thats because they are simply better
>quality,
>> better modeled, better referenced and better protected against
>vandalism.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Cheers
>> pangoSE
>> Ps I choose this list because this not only relates to tagging, but
>to the
>> wider ecosystem._______________________________________________
>> talk mailing list
>> talk at openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20200809/e6d43ef4/attachment.htm>


More information about the talk mailing list