[OSM-talk] Cyclofix project

Morten Lange morten7an at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 10 14:02:21 UTC 2020


Thanks for your hepful response (below).And sorry that I "re-sent"  my questions in a slightly different way.
However, there were two new points. 
One question about the life expectancy of the current site and one suggestion or inspiration (By some possibly perceived as wishful thinking): 
I enjoyed testing your solution, and I would like to announce it to others to try. 
But I suppose continued operation of the current site is uncertain?
That fact(?) holds me back a bit, except for "geeks"  and bicycle+map affectionados.   

Ideally The European Cyclists Federation or even UNEP or some other big organisation would offer to support operations of such a site, and cater for large traffic loads and continued development for, say, a 10 year period  :-)  
In the larger picture the costs would be quie low! 
-- Regards / Kveðja / Kila la heri / Hilsen Morten Lange 

    On Sunday, 9 August 2020, 16:25:52 CEST, Pieter Fiers <pieter at pfiers.net> wrote:  
 
  > Congratulations on a nice project and a useful one ! > For a long time I have wished for a user-friendly bicycle repair specific map, including bicycle cafés.
 
  Thanks, us as well ;)
 
 >  What I miss in the Cyclofix project is an easy-to find definition of how you classify the nodes that are to be included in the different map "layers". 
 > Which search is it that produces the bicycle cafés. (And what takes precedence if two or more criteria are fulfilled?)
 
 An excellent question, and something we want to improve in a future version (the discoverability and ease-of-use of the "layer" definitions). 
 
 To answer the bicycle cafés question in the context of the current version: 
 Take a look at https://github.com/pietervdvn/MapComplete/blob/master/Customizations/Layers/BikeCafes.ts#L23. That overpass filter/query can basically be written as: "a pub/bar/cafe with pub=cycling or any bicycle:service" (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/WSU).
 
 With regards to precedence, both POI's would be shown (not ideal). With the current definitions this might happen if there's an overlap on shop=bicycle, amenity=pub/bar/cafe, amenity=bicycle_parking or amenity=bicycle_repair_station.
 
 > I agree with making a distinction between "pure" bicycle shops  and general sport shops that offer bicycles or  repair of bicycles. 
 
 For "pure" bicycle shops we use shop=bicycle, for "other" shops (general sports equipment stores) we use shop=* + any bicycle:service:* tag.
 
 We're excited for the future and we're continuing work on making the project more user-friendly and approachable!
 
 
 Thanks for the kind words and with kind regards,
 Pieter Fiers
 
 
 On 05/08/2020 00:39, Morten Lange wrote:
  
 
     Congratulations on a nice project and a useful one ! 
  For a long time I have wished for a user-friendly bicycle repair specific map, including bicycle cafés. 
  What I miss in the Cyclofix project is an easy-to find definition of how you classify the nodes that are to be included in the differewnt map "layers".  Which search is it that produces the bicycle cafés. (And what takes precedence if two or more criteria are fulfilled?) 
  I agree with making a distinction between "pure" bicycle shops  and general sport shops that offer bicycles or  repair of bicycles. 
 However, the way Cyclofix has decided to differentiate is not self-evident to me, after briefly checking your documentation. I must admit that I did not really consider looking at the source-code  ;-)  
   --  Regards / Kveðja / Kila la heri / Hilsen  Morten Lange    
  
            On Wednesday, 29 July 2020, 19:43:38 CEST, Pieter Fiers <pieter at pfiers.net> wrote:  
  
     Dear OSM community,  
  My name is Pierre Barban. A team composed of three very motivated students, including myself, and lead by two active members of the OSMbe, have been mandated by the region of Brussels, Belgium, to create a map gathering all kind of data related to cycling. Without a doubt, OpenStreetMap was the perfect tool for us to create a powerful platform that would sustain over the years.  
  In the framework of month-long online code camp organized by the non-profit Open Knowledge Belgium, we have been able to establish the first version of the tool, organized a mapathon to collect data, and create a complete website to document the entire making process.  
  In accordance with the OSM core values, it would be very valuable for our project as well as our individual learning process to receive as many constructive comments from the community as possible. If you're interested in more details about the project, we will be giving an online presentation tomorrow July 30, 2020 at 1pm CEST. We will be available to directly discuss after the presentation to receive feedback in order to keep improving our project. Other related project from our program, Open Summer of Code, like the Bike Data Project - which aims to collect and share cyclist commute data in an opened way - will also be presented to you.   
  Please do not hesitate to contact me for further information, 
  thank you for your time and help. 
  Sincerely, 
  Pierre Barban, from the Cyclofix project.
 
 Sent by Pieter Fiers <pieter at pfiers.net>, another student of the team.
  
        Pierre Barban 
 University Panthéon-Sorbonne Paris I – Class of 2020
 Masters in Economics of Sustainable Development
 pierre.barban at gmail.com | +33 7 68 72 92 54
 
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