[OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

[Andreas Vilén]

Also, what exactly is "to the right" in this context? North, East, South or
West?

/Andreas

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:04 AM Mario Frasca <mario at anche.no> wrote:

> My experience is limited to one person in Panamá, who's used two user
> names: Kielito and Kielito1.
>
> He adds shops, one per changeset, he shortens names, and seldom uses
> capital letters.
>
> https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=8527833
>
> https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=8943003
>
> As you can see, he only replied to
> https://openstreetmap.org/changeset/61198755, where I asked him where
> some object really belonged, given I would not expect a shop to be in
> the middle of a road.  "put it to the right, thank you" was the answer.
> something I did not do.  I have no idea why he thinks he can't edit once
> he's contributed data.
>
> At a certain point I started systematically commenting to his changesets
> "who do you think is going to clean up your incomplete information?",
> before I alerted the DWG about it.  The reply I received from the DWG
> was that I should not scare away providers of valuable information.  I
> can't find the reply, to correctly quote text and attribute authorship
> of the reply.
>
> regards, MF
>
>
> On 04/12/2020 11:37, michael.montani95 at gmail.com (Michael Montani)
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I'm calling back a discussion on this mailing list on how Maps.Me edits
> > most of the times result to be very bad and close to vandalism.
> Furthermore
> > it seems the editor hasn't any notification system (as iD and JOSM) to
> tell
> > the user that at least someone sent an OSM message.
> >
> > We found out some users mapping very bad (and huge quantity) of POIs here
> > and there in:
> > - DRC: An user mapping over all the country, including sensible,
> temporary
> > data like an assault place in Irumu
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8018353585#map=19/1.45249/29.87712
> > (mapped as shop=butcher, with questionable dark sarcasm), plus many other
> > questionable ones
> >
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/format%20answer/history#map=10/1.2949/29.9117
> > - Mali: An user putting thousands of office=government in Bamako and
> other
> > cities, making impossible to produce decent urban maps out of OSM data
> > within a capital city...
> >
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/seydoukone/history#map=11/12.6172/-7.9153
> >
> > What worries me the most is that no one of these users are answering to
> > messages (and it's very common among Maps.Me users as I see...) and even
> if
> > they could be reverted, nothing is letting them know that they are
> actually
> > vandalising the map. It's difficult also to proceed with full reverts
> > because some tags from time to time seem reasonable, but can be
> challenging
> > to verify on the ground.
> >
> > I'm actually wondering about the causes of such bad tags, is Maps.Me
> using
> > preset names which are difficult to associate to actual tags? Should it
> be
> > mandatory for OSM editors to show OSM notifications? It seems also
> Maps.Me
> > itself is difficult to contact!!
> https://github.com/mapsme/omim/issues/13951
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Michael Montani
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