[OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

Emily Eros emily.eros at gmail.com
Fri Dec 11 00:24:46 UTC 2020

I wholeheartedly support an enforceable Code of Conduct for the mailing
lists and other global OSM spaces. I'm not going to write 3,000 words on
this. Others have already made these points. But for the sake of adding one
more female voice to this thread, plain and simple:

- Violent language is not okay
- You can make your point without it
- I'm not interested in whether men think rape metaphors are acceptable or
not. It seems insane that women should have to engage in a debate about
- Language used in these mailing lists is the reason that I do not
participate in these forums and spaces if I can possibly avoid it. It is
the reason why I participate in a local chapter but have have let my OSMF
membership lapse. There are many others who feel this way; I'm sure that
will be reflected in the signatories of the document prepared by Geochicas.
OSM is losing out on our participation.
- We can do better!!! Our community can be stronger and more vibrant if
people feel they can participate and put their hand up for things without
fear of being harassed rather than just disagreed with.

A Code of Conduct is long overdue. While I might nitpick some wording or
phrasing in the statement, I really can't agree more with this point and
would be happy to contribute to this effort.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 2:06 PM Andrew Hain <andrewhainosm at hotmail.co.uk>

> The big problem I have with this manifesto is that it brings divisive
> North American attitudes to a worldwide project. As a worldwide project,
> building a community of mappers from the whole world is our most important
> single diversity objective. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t encourage other
> underrepresented groups such as women, but we should step away from this
> kind of international combativeness and dog whistling. It may even be
> counterproductive: some feminists in my country think “diversity” has
> become a code word for misogyny.
> --
> Andrew
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Celine Jacquin <celija at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 09 December 2020 19:06
> *To:* osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>;
> talk at openstreetmap.org <talk at openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive
> Behavior in the OSM Community
> Hello everybody
> I hope you are all well
> We, several groups, chapters, organizations and individuals, have reacted
> to the conversation in the osm-talk-list (
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html)
> considering that it is an incident symptomatic of the problem we have faced
> for many years in the community, which is one of the greatest obstacles to
> diversity at all levels of OSM. Time to make a real change.
> That is why we have developed a beginning of statement on the desirable
> mechanisms to work solidly on the rules of coexistence and improve
> diversity.
> We bring it to your attention and invite anyone who feels represented to
> sign it. Translations are in preparation (any help is welcome):
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing
> On behalf of the signatories
> Best regards
> Céline Jacquin
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