[OSM-talk] Please SWITCH to Mailman 3 & hyperkitty

[Tom Hughes]

It's not going to happen.

Virtually nobody uses mailman 3 with the exception of Fedora
and I know from using it there that the UI is a disaster.

Also it's not packaged for Ubuntu and it's far more complicated
to deploy than what we have.

Don't think of mailman 3 as an upgrade - it's basically a
totally different product.

There is talk of a change, but it won't be to mailman 3.

Tom

On 14/12/2020 18:42, ipswichmapper at tutanota.com wrote:
> Okay thanks, I'll contact him on github. I don't havd mailman 
> administration experience, or that much coding experience for that 
> matter. I was just suprised that we are stuck with 10+ years old 
> cluttered pipermail when hyperkitty is actually useable.
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> 14 Dec 2020, 18:37 by jm at liotier.org:
> 
>      From looking at the Mailman Chef cookbook at
>     https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef/tree/master/cookbooks/mailman
>     <https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef/tree/master/cookbooks/mailman>,
>     Tom Hughes is the person you should ask. If you have mailman
>     administration experience, maybe you could make it happen.
> 
> 
>     On 12/14/20 7:18 PM, ipswichmapper--- via talk wrote:
>>
>>     I was wondering if all the lists on
>>     https://lists.openstreetmap.org <https://lists.openstreetmap.org>
>>     could be switched to Mailman 3 and hyperkitty (the newest archiver).
>>
>>     Currently, pipermail is used to archive, and its UI is *unusable*.
>>     Comparatevely, hyperkitty is a lot more like a forum.
>>
>>     From my experience, the mailing lists are *far more active* than
>>     the forum, so it would be good to have it searchable & more
>>     accessible (the only downside to this is newer users might use the
>>     mailing list now. I don't think this is a downside, but I
>>     understand why others would think so).
>>
>>     Also, Mailman 3 still gets updates, while *mailman2 is on
>>     maintainance mode and won't recieve feature updates.*
>>
>>     I strongly recommend that the mailing lists are upgraded to
>>     mailman3 with hyperkitty: this will make the mailing lists so, so
>>     much more useable.
> 
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