[OSM-talk] Crimea situation - on the ground

Johnparis okosm at johnfreed.com
Fri Feb 7 19:31:05 UTC 2020


I made such a proposal a while ago; it got majority approval but not the
supermajority required. At the time, I said I don't think a supermajority
is possible. However, my original proposal would, I believe, lend
considerable strength to the OTG rule, especially in hot spots like Crimea.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Mapping_disputed_boundaries

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 8:02 PM Mikel Maron <mikel.maron at gmail.com> wrote:

> There's two different concepts at play, that OSM does not currently tag
> well when in conflict. There's national sovereignty, which is a political
> concept which in large part depends on international recognition. And
> there's de facto control, which could result from military actions. For
> most of the world, these two are in sync. In Crimea, they are not, and
> there is a dispute.
>
> There are so many varieties of disputed territories in the world, it's
> hard to come up with a system that works for every single situation. And
> tagging structures for disputes could certainly get complicated. However, I
> believe that the OSM community could come up with something that works well
> enough for Crimea, that it would be broadly agreed that the situation is
> represented accurately.
>
> That tagging may not work for every single dispute in the world, but the
> tags could evolve as well as they are implemented in practice.
>
> -Mikel
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 7, 2020, 01:38:23 PM EST, Tomas Straupis <
> tomasstraupis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Note, that I'm opposing OTG rule application to non-physical objects
> as that is philosophically impossible as well as too unpracticall.
>
>
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