[OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

[Maarten Deen]

On 2020-02-26 12:34, Florimond Berthoux wrote:
> The problem is not the OSM "default" (there is no default) map.
> OSM is *not* a map !
> 
> The problem is the data put in name tag of some objects, which are not
> respectful with the international idea of the project.

I find it a stretch to say that someone mapping someting and putting in 
the english name is not respectful to the idea of the project. No one 
else but him was bothered enough to put anything in. He mapped it and 
that is more than enough to respect also the international idea of the 
project (i.c. someone not from or near country X did some mapping in or 
near country X).

The problem with the local names is what has already been said a few 
times: which name do you put in? If the object borders 2 countries, will 
it be two names with a / between them? If the objects borders 10 
countries, will it be 10 names with a / between them? If the object is 
the atlantic ocean, what then?
Will it be nothing in the name tag and are we then going to complain 
that the opencarto style falls back to name:en?

I just hope it will not turn into an edit war if there is no answer to 
that.

Regards,
Maarten

> 
> Le mar. 25 févr. 2020 à 22:57, Mario Frasca <mario at anche.no> a
> écrit :
> 
>> I'm afraid that the conclusion you summarize here is not at all
>> reached.
>> 
>> we have reached the conclusion on the pointless point: "we discuss
>> in English".
>> 
>> as for the values of the `name` tag:
>> 
>> I prefer to see "Adriatic Sea" rather than nothing.
>> 
>> I prefer "Mare Adriatico" to "Adriatic Sea".
>> 
>> I definitely question the choice of the editor who wrote "Gulf of
>> Trieste" for a piece of sea that borders with Italy (in an area
>> where Friuls is a recognized language), and Slovenia.
>> 
>> and I have suggested that the problem would vaporize if we added a
>> language identifier to the tile request.
>> 
>> I'm very much interested in reading reactions to this.
>> 
>> MF
>> On 25/02/2020 16:10, Tomek wrote:
>> 
>> W dniu 20-02-25 o 21:52, stevea pisze:
>> 
>> I believe I speak for many, most, or even all of us here (except
>> Tomek) that "this is a settled matter."
>> SteveA
>> 
>> Sprawa rozwiązana, każdy mówi w jakim języku chce, a znacznik
>> “name” z
>> obiektów międzynarodowych zostanie usunięty, z wyjątkiem mórz
>> graniczących z państwami.
>> Dziękuję za dyskusję
>> 
>> La problemo estas solvita, ĉiu povas paroli en iu ajn lingvo; kaj
>> la
>> etikedo “name” el internaciaj objektoj estos forigita, escepte
>> de maroj
>> apudaj al landoj.
>> Dankon por diskuto
>> 
>> The problem is solved, everyone can speak in any language; and the
>> tag
>> “name” from international objects will be deleted, except of
>> seas
>> adjacent to the countries.
>> Thank you for discussion
>> 
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