[OSM-talk] no-go-areas

Julien djakk djakk.geographie at gmail.com
Mon Jan 6 05:48:24 UTC 2020

Hello ! For this kind of tagging, which is as subjective as the
highway=secondary, there should be a consensus of local mappers.

This kind of areas could be tagged as “you need to know the area to be safe
among locals” :-)

Julien “djakk”

Le lun. 6 janv. 2020 à 05:23, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> a écrit :

> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:10 PM Mark Wagner <mark+osm at carnildo.com>
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 16:14:30 +0100
>> Martin Trautmann <traut at gmx.de> wrote:
>> > hi all,
>> >
>> > did you read about the Suisse tourist couple which was shot because
>> > they got lost in a Brasilian favela?
>> >
>> > NZZ (Neue Zürcher Zeitung) from Tuesday 31.12.2019. ("Schweizer
>> > Ehepaar bei Irrfahrt duch Favela in Brasilien
>> > angeschossen")
>> >
>> > Other examples are e.g. Mafia areas within Kosovo - or name your own
>> > home town no-go area.
>> >
>> > Is there any option to mark certain areas in order to bypass routing
>> > whenever possible?
>> >
>> The problem is that most of these "no-go" areas are subjective, both in
>> boundary and in level of danger.  If you ask a half-dozen people, you
>> might get a half-dozen responses ranging from "I go there all the time"
>> to "The police don't patrol in less than platoon strength".
> Yeah, I get this same impression.  This has the potential to rear its head
> in a really classist, and varying ranges of racist, ways as well.  For
> example, go post on Reddit on any given city's subreddit, and ask "I'm
> moving to ___, what parts of town should I avoid?"  Fair warning, try this
> for a city you're familiar with, and be prepared to die a little inside
> with the answers you get.
> Personally, I'm more likely to consider middle-class suburbia a no-go area
> because large parking lots make it easy for car prowlers no matter how many
> police are on the streets, transit coverage tends to be iffy before morning
> and after evening peak commuter hours, and 5+-lane-wide boulevards tend to
> be not-safe-for-life if you need to traverse them without using a car.
> Your mileage may vary.
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