[OSM-talk] Deleting template parameters copied to data items
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Wed Jan 15 13:03:29 UTC 2020
On Wednesday 15 January 2020, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> PangoSE started "Transition to use data items when this can be done
> without loosing information" discussion at
> It is about whatever it is correct to delete data from the OSM Wiki
> page after it was copied to data items.
> Anyone with opinion on that topic is welcomed to comment in this
> discussion on the OSM Wiki.
This is a move that has been a long time coming as part of a piecemeal
effort by some to establish a technocratic rule on the OSM wiki by
moving central content out of the control of the mappers into the
domain of data items with higher hurdles of participation due to poor
ergonomics (the whole concept of requiring human editors to deal with
numerical IDs for features that already have a unique identifier in OSM
by design never ceases to amaze me) and with an established ability of
the technocrats to control the crowd sourced editing work with bots.
Quite obviously that it is not a good idea. But it does not matter much
because the community has plenty of options to work around this should
it indeed be implemented against the interests of the mapper community.
I would for example if something in the info box is wrong and this is
not part of the wiki page of a tag as it should be not delve into the
awkward interface of some separate database and subject my edits there
to the rule of some technicrats with bots but would simply add the
information to the wiki page. We could also add - in addition to the
bot managed info boxes - new real human managed info boxes. All of
this would be awkward of course but nothing that could not be done.
The real discussion that needs to be done is how we can get to a better
documentation of the actual use of tags by humans for humans. We have
had some useful discussion on this at SotM last year and in a follow-up
Continuing in that direction of a better human curated documentation of
tags is the thing to pursue, not moving towards a bot managed database
in replacement of or in control of human contributions.
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