[OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

80hnhtv4agou at bk.ru 80hnhtv4agou at bk.ru
Fri Jun 12 14:32:49 UTC 2020


I am confused,
 
are you telling me being in chicago, where i can go to the place i am editing, not relying on satellite view
 
which is behind by at least 7 month or more here, i should be messing around in London.
  
>Friday, June 12, 2020 9:26 AM -05:00 from Dave F via talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>:
> 
>On 12/06/2020 14:44, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 12.06.20 15:22, Dave F via talk wrote:
>>> There is a lot of negativity about large changsets, but assessment of
>>> them should be based on quality, not quantity.
>> Yes, we're not discussing a popup that says "You dumbass, why did you
>> create a world-spanning changeset?" ;)
>
>I'm not convinced that's true. Already in this thread someone is blaming
>large changesets purely because the verifying software they're using
>isn't capable of dealing with them. Judge on quality not quantity.
>
>> The way in which editors deal with that would likely differ; in JOSM it
>> might be a popup that says "are you sure?" and in ID it might be a
>> floating warning somewhere.
>>
>> Your example of a world-wide spelling fix as an acceptable edit does not
>> agree with me; these edits often have unwanted side effects. See
>>  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org ("if someone has described a 'horse' as a
>> 'kow' correcting the spelling to 'cow' does not make the description
>> correct").
>
>Tenuous & assumptive.
>It was just one "example".
>
>> OSM is a project of local knowlege.
>
>Just because you believe that, it doesn't make it so.
>Knowledge which effects OSM comes from many sources:
>A walk though town where a new shop has opened, or BBC world news which
>reports how a Far Eastern bridge building project has been cancelled &
>the proposed data requires removing.
>
>> World-spanning changesets compatible
>> with that idea are not impossible but rare; and erroneous or even
>> rule-violating changesets
>
>These rules require amending as they're based purely on size & the
>criticism is usually in the form of " "You dumbass, why did you create a
>world-spanning changeset?". Judge on quality not quantity.
>
>> are much more frequent among world-spanning
>> changesets than among everyday small bbox changesets.
>I'm not convinced. This perception only occurs because changesets over
>large areas stand out.
>
>Cheers
>DaveF
>
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