[OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

Florian Lohoff f at zz.de
Fri Jun 19 21:45:57 UTC 2020

Hi Nick,

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:47:01AM +0000, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> (Disclaimer: I am the developer of said project)
> You can login using your OSM account.

The issue is that once you start pushing stuff into any projects your
storage expenses will kill you pretty fast.


Thats 0.005$ per GB and Month. Thats *12 *1024 for a Terrabyte. Thats
something like 60$ per Year per Terrabyte which sounds reasonable
concerning disk costs. Costs per disk per lifetime and infrastructure to 
connect it to the IP Network.

Since late May i have produced:

flo at p4:/scratch/local/mapillary$ du -sh .
285G	.
flo at p4:/scratch/local/mapillary$ find . -type f -iname "*.jpg" | wc -l

So just pushing worth like 2 Weeks of taking street imagery will cost the
Hoster about 20$ per year from now on. And i have pushed multiple terrabytes 
to Mapillary since 2014.

And thats just me. Put that to a global OSM perspective and you need
serious funding for storing all that imagery, let alone the CPU cycles
for your compute vision to blur faces and number plates.

And as i have done something like OpenStreetcam 10 years ago for my personal
imagery without the fancy blurring stuff. And i have worked for Hosting 
companys so i know the deal.

This is why I think personally that the Facebook deal is the only
viable option for getting long term funding for storage. Somebody
has to pay for it. And i dont see a real businesscase which will pay
up for all the random Dashboards people store into your Dataset.

So either Facebook supports this service or we are toast.

The only option would then be OSMF funding but you may have a glimpse
at the Mapillary numbers and prepare some fundraising.

Florian Lohoff                                                 f at zz.de
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