[OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

Volker Schmidt voschix at gmail.com
Tue Mar 10 10:10:34 UTC 2020


Fixing stuff in OSM purely from imagery may not be good.
>
> A local mapper who sees something may add it before any satellite imagery
> has it.
>
> If you then 'fix' this back to the satellite imagery you will have
> committed an error,
> and that error may dissuade our most important resource from ever making
> any further changes- the local mapper.
>
> Be very careful!
>

I second this last line !

I am observing an influx of mixed-quality remote edits from Amazon
Logistics in my area.
I expect this Facebook operation to produce much more changes or potential
changes (=suspected errors).
What we need for both cases and similar ones in the future is a way of
being able to identify such changes, which by their nature will be
armchair-mapping efforts.
I do not have a specific proposal, but I would appreciate a tool that helps
me, as local mapper,  find these edits, and, more importantly we need a new
approach to organise digesting these massive distributed armchair-mapping
interventions on OSM data.
I don't realistically think that banning these activities is good for OSM.
Not dealing in a systematic way with it at all presents, however, a big
risk of deteriorating the map for two reasons:
(1) bad armchair edits by Amazon and Facebook (and others)
(2) demotivating non-armchair mappers

I repeat I do not have a proposal how to handle that. My main concern is
that the required work for locally checking even only those edits that need
checking (I am assuming that at least FB has good algorithms to sort out
the dead-certain corrections beforehand. I am more sceptical with Amazon's
changing local access tagging to, essentially, "yes" everywhere they have
delivered something by delivery van. I came across a good number of them,
and in most cases they were at least dubious)

Volker
(Padova, Italy)
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