[OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

Florimond Berthoux florimond.berthoux at gmail.com
Tue Mar 10 11:23:22 UTC 2020


My proposal :

survey > aerial imagery.

So its the aerial imagery mapper who has to check that its aerial imageries
are more recent than the last changes made with survey sources.
That’s something I do often when I see weird differences.
(So we put the load on the big companies instead of the free local mappers
;)

Regards.

Le mar. 10 mars 2020 à 11:14, Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> a écrit :

>
>
> Fixing stuff in OSM purely from imagery may not be good.
>>
>> A local mapper who sees something may add it before any satellite imagery
>> has it.
>>
>> If you then 'fix' this back to the satellite imagery you will have
>> committed an error,
>> and that error may dissuade our most important resource from ever making
>> any further changes- the local mapper.
>>
>> Be very careful!
>>
>
> I second this last line !
>
> I am observing an influx of mixed-quality remote edits from Amazon
> Logistics in my area.
> I expect this Facebook operation to produce much more changes or potential
> changes (=suspected errors).
> What we need for both cases and similar ones in the future is a way of
> being able to identify such changes, which by their nature will be
> armchair-mapping efforts.
> I do not have a specific proposal, but I would appreciate a tool that
> helps me, as local mapper,  find these edits, and, more importantly we need
> a new approach to organise digesting these massive distributed
> armchair-mapping interventions on OSM data.
> I don't realistically think that banning these activities is good for OSM.
> Not dealing in a systematic way with it at all presents, however, a big
> risk of deteriorating the map for two reasons:
> (1) bad armchair edits by Amazon and Facebook (and others)
> (2) demotivating non-armchair mappers
>
> I repeat I do not have a proposal how to handle that. My main concern is
> that the required work for locally checking even only those edits that need
> checking (I am assuming that at least FB has good algorithms to sort out
> the dead-certain corrections beforehand. I am more sceptical with Amazon's
> changing local access tagging to, essentially, "yes" everywhere they have
> delivered something by delivery van. I came across a good number of them,
> and in most cases they were at least dubious)
>
> Volker
> (Padova, Italy)
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