[OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

[Oleksiy Muzalyev]

The fundamental point of this discussion is that the AI, the Artificial 
Intelligence, does not exist yet. It is kind of a marketing gimmick.

Sure, there are good computer programs, there are sophisticated 
automatons, but there is no AI, except in movies and serials.

Let me give you an example. There are machines in restaurants, which 
wash the dishes. But the dishes must be cleaned manually from the food 
leftovers, before putting them into the dish-washing machine. The army 
of humans worldwide, millions of workers do this hard debilitating work 
every day and night, because there is no AI good enough to pick up the 
dish and clean it without breaking it.

Certainly, this problem could be solved by standardizing the dishes, 
making them suitable for the automation, but my point is that there is 
no AI smart enough to to do such a simple task, which even a child could 
do easily. And we want to give the "AI" of this sort the task of drawing 
the map of this complicated world.

Best regards,
Oleksiy

On 3/19/20 12:28, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> a propos a recent statement from our friends at Facebook in which they
> make plans for the future of our project,
>
> https://tech.fb.com/map-with-ai-updates/
>
>> Beyond AI-based data sets, one of the biggest challenges for OSM is importing even readily available authoritative data sets
>> ...
>> our hope is that RapiD can become a tool that’s simple enough for anyone to import and verify new data sets and to make use of these powerful tools
> I would like to reiterate that the "challenge" is not that it is
> difficult to import "authoritative data sets"; the problem is that
> authoritative data sets are fundamentally incompatible with the way we
> operate in OpenStreetMap. To quote just an obvious example, the
> government of India certainly has an authoritative data set about where
> their boundaries are, it's just that this does not align with facts on
> the ground and hence our data is different. The past has shown that
> petrol station chains also have "authoritative" data sets about their
> stations but they are riddled with bugs, and not suitable for wholesale
> import.
>
> I think that someone who cannot respect these basic tenets of
> OpenStreetMap - that mappers on the ground have the last word on what
> gets into OSM and what not - shouldn't be allowed to publish software
> that interacts with our database. I think we should disallow any
> contributions made with RapID/map-with-ai and friends.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>