[OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Mar 19, 2020, 12:28 by frederik at remote.org:

> Hi,
>
> a propos a recent statement from our friends at Facebook in which they
> make plans for the future of our project,
>
> https://tech.fb.com/map-with-ai-updates/
>
>> Beyond AI-based data sets, one of the biggest challenges for OSM is importing even readily available authoritative data sets
>> ...
>> our hope is that RapiD can become a tool that’s simple enough for anyone to import and verify new data sets and to make use of these powerful tools
>>
I agree that it sounds like "we are building tool that will let us ignore
import guidelines"

> I would like to reiterate that the "challenge" is not that it is
> difficult to import "authoritative data sets"; the problem is that
> authoritative data sets are fundamentally incompatible with the way we
> operate in OpenStreetMap.
>
I would not say so strongly, some datasets can be imported and were very useful
(for example address data in Poland - where are imported settlement
by settlement, with significant effort to review and to not import low
quality areas ).

>  To quote just an obvious example, the
> government of India certainly has an authoritative data set about where
> their boundaries are, it's just that this does not align with facts on
> the ground and hence our data is different. The past has shown that
> petrol station chains also have "authoritative" data sets about their
> stations but they are riddled with bugs, and not suitable for wholesale
> import.
>
Yes, not everything is importable.

> I think that someone who cannot respect these basic tenets of
> OpenStreetMap - that mappers on the ground have the last word on what
> gets into OSM and what not - shouldn't be allowed to publish software
> that interacts with our database. I think we should disallow any
> contributions made with RapID/map-with-ai and friends.
>
Is there any case of actually misusing RapiD to make imports
in violation of import guidelines?

Is there case where RapiD developers refused to modify/fix
features that encourage mindless importing without review?

I dislike FB (and their ongoing refusal to properly attribute OSM
on maps that they are displaying is not improving my opinion),
but I would not ban them based on just that.

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