[OSM-talk] Improving ref=* documentation

[François Lacombe]

Hi Bert,

That's a good point
ref=* and wikidata=* don't have the same purpose.

wikidata won't number one and each bus stop or fire hydrant in my suburb
and ref=* will.
Despite wikidata knows significant places, people, it doesn't know dozen of
unnamed features (and never will).

I should also add that the point is often to give at least one number to
feature and sometimes you need several (depending on situations, multiple
actors, several feature on the same node and so on).
Not to mention I rarely find third party professional databases which even
know wikidata, pretty all public services in France (Europe ?) use their
own reference schemes.

Finally, two approaches aren't incompatible and we should use them both,
toward different actors though.

All the best

François

Le mer. 4 août 2021 à 21:24, Bert -Araali- Van Opstal <
bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hello François,
>
> Without reading the proposal yet, which I will for sure do the coming days,
>
> have you considered using Wikidata instead of ref=* for linking the
> databases ? Based on the situation you sketch in this mail the perfect open
> solution for that.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Bert Araali
> On 04/08/2021 21:33, François Lacombe wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> It's been a while I wanted to propose a more detailed documentation about
> several points of ref=* key business.
> Current wiki page describes well different options but doesn't deal with
> global logic, particularly on how tracking osm changes in a third party
> database (bound with ref=* instead of osm ids, obviously).
>
> Here is this little draft of to-be w/References page.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Fanfouer/References
>
> Some points may sounds obvious but It's better written, particularly when
> on boarding new mappers or consumers.
>
> Enedis partnership currently running in France leads to practical
> questions about linking osm and third party database without global
> solution so far, probably like many projects before.
> Once data collected in OSM, third parties need to update their own odbl
> repositories in a streaming fashion. Here comes the proposed reference
> logic.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/InfosReseaux/diary/396044
>
> Feel free to comment, improve or react.
> All the best
>
> François
>
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