[OSM-talk] Streetcomplete and Geographically Large Changesets

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Mon Jul 26 13:01:01 UTC 2021


For completeness sake here's a, two year old, blog post on using offline 
data: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/193235

Am 26.07.2021 um 14:45 schrieb Simon Poole:
>
> Am 26.07.2021 um 14:25 schrieb ndrw6:
>> On 26/07/2021 09:37, Simon Poole wrote:
>>>  > It would be good if you could provide specific feedback what
>>> doesn't/didn't work for you on the Vespucci issue tracker 
>>> https://github.com/MarcusWolschon/osmeditor4android/issues (pls 
>>> indicate the version you were using).
>>
>> I still see large-scale mapping without a PC the main strength of 
>> Vespucci. Nothing wrong with that - there will be many users looking 
>> exactly for that.
>>
>> I tried the tool again today, so it is a new version on a new 
>> hardware. The performance feels better (could be just the hardware 
>> upgrade) but panning/zooming/UI is still choppy especially with more 
>> data loaded.
>>
>> I don't particularly like the start up. Ideally I would like all map 
>> data in my area of choice already downloaded on start up, like in 
>> Maps.me, filtered by a zoom level and object type, with an option to 
>> update a region on demand. In the field, I rarely have a fast 
>> internet connection (sometimes none at all) so downloading data can 
>> be painful.
>
> You can completely have offline data if you want to, currently you 
> need to update the whole file (there was a GSoC project this year for 
> incremental updating, that nobody picked up.
>
>>
>> The main issue for me is mapping itself. The tool allows everything 
>> to be edited, which is great for an arm-chair mapping session, but 
>> when on the go I only really need:
>> 1) adding a node with tags
>> 2) adding/editing tags of a node/way/relations (no need to access way 
>> nodes without tags)
>> 3) adding a quick local note/photo for later (no need to upload it to 
>> OSM)
>>
>> However, these operations should be streamlined (easy navigation, 
>> easy selection of objects, as few clicks as possible needed for 
>> editing, one hand operation). In particular, I don't want selecting 
>> any way nodes and I don't want any geometry editing.
>
> Vespucci has had a tag only editing mode (in which you can still add 
> new things) since March 2009, aka since its first Version, long before 
> I had anything to do with it (BTW since 15.2 there are mode specific 
> launcher shortcuts 
> http://vespucci.io/help/en/15.2.0%20Release%20notes/#support-mode-specific-launcher-shortcuts). 
> If you want to further reduce what is displayed you can use either of 
> the two filter modes.
>
> Simon
>
>>
>> Editing in such mode doesn't have to be perfect, it could be fixed 
>> (for example geometry) afterwards in Vespucci or even uploaded as-is 
>> and fixed in a separate session.
>>
>> I see Vespucci already has a "simple mode" but it appears to only 
>> differ with a "+" button being present. This direction could perhaps 
>> be explored further.
>>
>> There may be unintended factual errors above - I have very little 
>> experience with Vespucci.
>>
>> -ndrw6
>>
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