[OSM-talk] Persian/Arabian Gulf Tagging

[Abdullah Abdulrhman]

First: if there are disputes over the name, the rule in OSM is "On the Ground Rule" as found on the wiki page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes#On_the_Ground_Rule

And the official and recognized name in all the countries surrounding the Gulf, except for Iran, is the الخليج العربي - Arabian Gulf, and this is found on the official pages of the countries surrounding the Gulf see:

name on the official maps in Saudi Arabia and from an official government website:
https://www.gcs.gov.sa/en/productsandservices/products/publicmaps/pages/official-map-of-the-kingdom-of-saudi-arabia.aspx

and official maps in UAE from an official government website:
https://u.ae/-/media/4BDAEA7E82FB4B8AAAE9D70A2E4D88A1.ashx?db=master&la=en&vs=1&ts=20171018T1537576451

and official maps in IRAQ from an official government websites:
https://somooil.gov.iq/news/49
https://evisa.gov.iq
https://www.somooil.gov.iq/exports
https://investpromo.gov.iq/why-iraq/
http://www.mofa.gov.iq/2020/07/?p=15724
https://jprs.gov.iq/index.php/jprs/article/view/50
https://ina.iq/eng/7760--.html
https://gds.gov.iq/the-gulf-committee-commences-its-duties-in-basra/

and official maps in Oman from an official government website:
https://www.nsaom.org.om/lndex.php?inc=downloads/maps
https://www.nsaom.org.om/arabic/downloads/jpg/Satellite.jpg

and official maps in from Kuwait an official government website:
https://www.moo.gov.kw/about_kuwait.aspx

and official name in Bahrain from an official government website::
https://www.bahrain.bh/wps/portal/aboutBahrain_en

and official name in Qatar from an official government website:
https://portal.www.gov.qa/wps/portal/about-qatar/aboutqatar

and see the name from Official website of Gulf Cooperation Council:
https://www.gcc-sg.org/en-us/Pages/default.aspx

Second: The sabotage that occurred was very large, and some of it was not recovered until weeks later, and this caused many effects, as the navigation programs associated with OSM, such as OsmAnd and others, were disrupted, and the incitement to this sabotage strongly encouraged OSM Iranian telegram group , and here are examples of some sabotage operations that were not You only get back after 18 days!!:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/106098874
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/106095705
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/106092700
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/106087726
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/106086083
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/106081695
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/106081270
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/106081014

Therefore, sabotaging the map and taking revenge in order to impose a certain name is disgraceful and unacceptable.

the value on name: and name:ar it must be:
الخليج العربي
Which means the Arabian Gulf as of "On the Ground Rule" If you want to use the international name then use int_name tag, and If you want to use the historical name you can use old_name.

Abdullah Abdulrhman
Saudi Arabia

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From: Ebrahim Nejati via talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 10:00 PM
To: talk at openstreetmap.org <talk at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [OSM-talk] Persian/Arabian Gulf Tagging


Today, I saw Persian Gulf's (rel:9326283) rendering is back to Arabian
Gulf. The purpose of this message is not continuing the constant
quarrel that which one is the correct name, but to explain my point of
view.

The `name` tags of this relation had been a translation of "Persian
Gulf" in all languages except in Arabic. This is okay. Since OSM favors
the situations "on the ground", local communities can decide the name of
these regions.

It was all good until recently a vandalist felt that this is wrong and
repeatedly decided to change the `name:ar` from "Arabian Gulf" to
"Persian Gulf". We in OpenStreetMap Iran Telegram group (most active
place among Iranian mappers) discussed this issue and strongly condemned
it.

But now, after the vandalist's changesets has been reverted, the `name`
tag of "Persian Gulf" is changed to "Arabian Gulf" while it is called
"Persian Gulf" in all languages except Arabic. I'm here to ask how OSMF
or Data Working Group decides the `name` tag of such places?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Gulf
- Here is Persian Gulf's Wikipedia's page where it is called Persian
Gulf in all languages but Arabic. You can also read more about this
naming dispute here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatt_al-Arab
- Here is Shatt al-Arab wikipedia page, which I think has the opposite
naming convention which it is called Shatt al-Arab in every language but
in Persian, where it is "Arvand Roud"


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