[OSM-talk] Persian/Arabian Gulf Tagging

Saeed Hubaishan سعيد حبيشان hubaishan at outlook.sa
Sun Jun 20 19:00:16 UTC 2021


على ١٠/١١/٤٢ ‫٠٩:١٤ ص، كتب Ebrahim Nejati via talk:
>> But note that the population of Iran is larger than the population of all
>> the other countries in the Arabian peninsula combined.
> - Iran not only is the most populated country among gulf countries but
> it has the largest exclusive economic zones and longest coastline.
>
This is wrong. Arabian Gulf countries  combined have larger population 
than Iran also  the Arabian peninsula have larger population. As in 
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

popualtion        country

*83,992,949 **Iran ***

40,222,493        Iraq
4,270,571        Kuwait
34,813,871        Saudi Arabia
1,701,575        Bahrain
2,881,053        Qatar
9,890,402        UAE
5,106,626        Oman

98,886,591     Totally

If you talking about modern definition of Arabian peninsula throw Iraq 
and add Yemen ( 29,825,964) the total will be ( 88,490,062). If you talk 
about old definition of Arabian peninsula add Yemen and Iraq and 
Jordan(10,203,134) and Syria (17,500,658) and Lebanon (6,825,445) 
Palestine (5,101,414) the total will be  168,343,206.

So if we compare the population of countries surrounding the Gulf the 
name must be Arabic. (98,886,591(54%) vs *83,992,949(46%))*

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*But If we talk care for all population of countries shares seas so all 
seas belong China will have Chinese names  and also Russia and India.
So let us take care of only people in gulf coastlines:*

*Iran has only tow cities(over 100,000 population) in the Gulf:*

526,648     Bandar Abbas (in worldometers.info 352,173)
223,504    Bushehr (in worldometers.info  165,377 )
162,797 Bandar-e Mahshahr <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar-e_Mahshahr>

Total 912,949

(source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities_of_Iran)

(note the  Bandar Abbas not the relation of the Gulf in OSM it is on 
(Strait of Hormuz) but no matter)

Arabian cities of coasline of gulf:

Dubai   (UAE)              3,297,980
Kuwait  city  (Kuwait)    3,000,000
Doha    (Qatar)             2,382,000
Abu Dhabi  (UAE)           1,807,000
Sharjah   (UAE)             1,274,749
Dammam  (KSA)            1,252,523
Manama city  (Bahrain)   635,000
Al Jubayl    (KSA)             392,948
Ajman   (UAE)              226,172
Muharraq    (Bahrain) 176,583
Ras al-Khaimah  (UAE)  115,949

Total 14,560,904 (source of population from wikipedia.org) **

So for population of major cities Gulf the name must be Arabic. 
(14,560,904 (94%) vs 912,949 *(6%))*

*If we take care of the administrative divisions have coastline in the Gulf*

*Iran:*

*1,163,400 bushehr (relation/269575)
1,776,415    Hormozgān (half of the province on Arabian Gulf and other 
on Gulf of Oman) (relation/3385992)
4,710,509    Khuzestan (All major cities in this province are very far 
from the gulf) (realtion/3661581)
total 7,650,324
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*sourcce of population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Iran
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*Arabian region:*

*31,425     Oman Musandam governorate *

*9,738,402 All UAE emaraties except of Fujairah (9,890,402-152,000)*

*2,881,053     Qatar
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*1,701,575     Bahrain*

3,360,157 Eastern Region on KSA (source wikipedia.org)

4,270,571        Kuwait

2,900,000     Basra governorate (Iraq)  (source wikipedia.org)

24,883,183 Total

So if we take the population of *administrative divisions have coastline 
in the Gulf **name must be Arabic. (24,883,183(76.5%) vs 
7,650,324*(23.5%))**


If we take care of coastline all coastline of gulf as in OSM 
12,950,694.04 see

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/18zO

Iran has only 2,269,365m (17.5%) see

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/18zM

Saudi Arabia alone has 2,326,098m

So If we take care of coastline the Gulf name must be Arabic (10,681,328 
m(82.5%) vs 2,269,365m (17.5%))


So all ways guide us to that "name" tag must be the Arabic name not the 
Persian.

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Saeed Hubiashan
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