[OSM-talk] Persian/Arabian Gulf Tagging

[Saeed Hubaishan سعيد حبيشان]

Hi,

For the facts in this email in Excel format go to

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على ١٠/١١/٤٢ ‫١٠:٠٠ م، كتب Saeed Hubaishan سعيد حبيشان:
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> على ١٠/١١/٤٢ ‫٠٩:١٤ ص، كتب Ebrahim Nejati via talk:
>>> But note that the population of Iran is larger than the population 
>>> of all
>>> the other countries in the Arabian peninsula combined.
>> - Iran not only is the most populated country among gulf countries but
>> it has the largest exclusive economic zones and longest coastline.
>>
> This is wrong. Arabian Gulf countries  combined have larger population 
> than Iran also  the Arabian peninsula have larger population. As in 
> https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/
>
> popualtion        country
>
> *83,992,949 **Iran ***
>
> 40,222,493        Iraq
> 4,270,571        Kuwait
> 34,813,871        Saudi Arabia
> 1,701,575        Bahrain
> 2,881,053        Qatar
> 9,890,402        UAE
> 5,106,626        Oman
>
> 98,886,591     Totally
>
> If you talking about modern definition of Arabian peninsula throw Iraq 
> and add Yemen ( 29,825,964) the total will be ( 88,490,062). If you 
> talk about old definition of Arabian peninsula add Yemen and Iraq and 
> Jordan(10,203,134) and Syria (17,500,658) and Lebanon (6,825,445) 
> Palestine (5,101,414) the total will be  168,343,206.
>
> So if we compare the population of countries surrounding the Gulf the 
> name must be Arabic. (98,886,591(54%) vs *83,992,949(46%))*
>
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> *But If we talk care for all population of countries shares seas so 
> all seas belong China will have Chinese names  and also Russia and India.
> So let us take care of only people in gulf coastlines:*
>
> *Iran has only tow cities(over 100,000 population) in the Gulf:*
>
> 526,648     Bandar Abbas (in worldometers.info 352,173)
> 223,504    Bushehr (in worldometers.info  165,377 )
> 162,797 Bandar-e Mahshahr 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar-e_Mahshahr>
>
> Total 912,949
>
> (source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities_of_Iran)
>
> (note the  Bandar Abbas not the relation of the Gulf in OSM it is on 
> (Strait of Hormuz) but no matter)
>
> Arabian cities of coasline of gulf:
>
> Dubai   (UAE)              3,297,980
> Kuwait  city  (Kuwait)    3,000,000
> Doha    (Qatar)             2,382,000
> Abu Dhabi  (UAE)           1,807,000
> Sharjah   (UAE)             1,274,749
> Dammam  (KSA)            1,252,523
> Manama city  (Bahrain)   635,000
> Al Jubayl    (KSA)             392,948
> Ajman   (UAE)              226,172
> Muharraq    (Bahrain) 176,583
> Ras al-Khaimah  (UAE)  115,949
>
> Total 14,560,904 (source of population from wikipedia.org) **
>
> So for population of major cities Gulf the name must be Arabic. 
> (14,560,904 (94%) vs 912,949 *(6%))*
>
> *If we take care of the administrative divisions have coastline in the 
> Gulf*
>
> *Iran:*
>
> *1,163,400 bushehr (relation/269575)
> 1,776,415    Hormozgān (half of the province on Arabian Gulf and other 
> on Gulf of Oman) (relation/3385992)
> 4,710,509    Khuzestan (All major cities in this province are very far 
> from the gulf) (realtion/3661581)
> total 7,650,324
> *
>
> *sourcce of population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Iran
> *
>
> *Arabian region:*
>
> *31,425     Oman Musandam governorate *
>
> *9,738,402 All UAE emaraties except of Fujairah (9,890,402-152,000)*
>
> *2,881,053     Qatar
> *
> *1,701,575     Bahrain*
>
> 3,360,157 Eastern Region on KSA (source wikipedia.org)
>
> 4,270,571        Kuwait
>
> 2,900,000     Basra governorate (Iraq)  (source wikipedia.org)
>
> 24,883,183 Total
>
> So if we take the population of *administrative divisions have 
> coastline in the Gulf **name must be Arabic. (24,883,183(76.5%) vs 
> 7,650,324*(23.5%))**
>
>
> If we take care of coastline all coastline of gulf as in OSM 
> 12,950,694.04 see
>
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/18zO
>
> Iran has only 2,269,365m (17.5%) see
>
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/18zM
>
> Saudi Arabia alone has 2,326,098m
>
> So If we take care of coastline the Gulf name must be Arabic 
> (10,681,328 m(82.5%) vs 2,269,365m (17.5%))
>
>
> So all ways guide us to that "name" tag must be the Arabic name not 
> the Persian.
>
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Saeed Hubiashan
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