[OSM-talk] Racist, insulting and abusive comments on OSM related channels

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Mon Mar 15 08:11:27 UTC 2021


I assume that you got directed to the Discord server in question after 
editing with iD?

The thing to understand that neither the server itself, nor the 
compilation of resources that led to you being sent there 
(https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index) is in any way official 
or vetted. Particularly in the case of channels that claim wide 
geographic reach this is problematic, as essentially the only criteria 
for inclusion boils down to "not already being in the list" and this can 
lead to a niche group being presented in a way that is widely outside 
their actual importance in the OSM ecosystem.

So sorry for your experience.  To resolve the matter I've requested that 
the Discord server be removed from the list 


Am 14.03.2021 um 21:29 schrieb Bert -Araali- Van Opstal:
> Dear all,
> This is a call to our whole community,
> I have become only recently active on OSM's community channels. I am 
> very welcomed, respected on the various talk pages, and I appreciate that.
> The past month I have been following different alternative channels, 
> Telegram groups, WhatsApp groups, and... Discord.
> All of them using the OSM name, which for me stands as a quality mark, 
> not just as a trade mark. Being channels that respect, values and 
> understands different cultures, different opinions, promotes decent 
> and democratic principles, respect the "etiquette" required of calling 
> yourself an OSM contributor, a member of this community.
> However, what I see on Discord, all under the OSM trade name, sorry 
> for the word... is disgusting.
> Whole communities being insulted (words I don't even dare to use), 
> remarks of non-English communities making "dumb" remarks, vote 
> lobbying for and against proposals because they are made by "another" 
> countries community member, it's nearing to hate speech... really 
> disgusting.
> The ones who are on these channels know who and what I am talking 
> about, I kindly ask you, stop this please.  This is not welcome, 
> highly inappropriate and not how you communicate with your fellow 
> human beings, your fellow OSM contributor. Stop, go and look in the 
> mirror, and ask yourself what am I doing, is this how I want to be 
> known in a worldwide peaceful community ?
> I didn't file a compliant at the DWG, I didn't call this subject to be 
> handled in the OSMF board (yet), I first call in this channel, and 
> everyone who experiences the same, feels the same discussed, speak 
> out, comment on this channel, because I don't want to be associated 
> with a channel that uses the OSM name where by some, not all not the 
> majority, but some, disguise and dis-value what we stand for.
> And please, don't call names in your comments, it's not limited to 
> people from one country particular, one community. Just express your 
> concerns, and when this behaviour doesn't change, we as a community 
> can and will take action, identify the malicious minds and practices, 
> and remand or ban them. Let your comment be their first warning.
> Kind regards,
> Bert Araali
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