[OSM-talk] Drain socks
61sundowner at gmail.com
Sat Mar 20 07:10:16 UTC 2021
On 19/3/21 8:33 pm, stevea wrote:
> Speaking personally and as mapper and user of OSM, I have a preference for precise over common.
What do you mean by the word 'precise'?
In metrology the work 'precise' is an indication of the repeatability (not the accuracy).
The word 'fluid' is not to me 'precise' as some people think it only encompass liquids while others think it encompass both liquids and gasses, thus it has two meanings so it not repeatable over the population and therefore not precise.
> Without being insulting, I don't think OSM wants to map for users who are ignorant of precision, simply because we wish them to (already) understand the word they are using: this promulgates a lack of precision in our map, which can't be a good thing. I might be unusual, but I enjoy learning something new (when mapping, when doing many activities), especially when and where the (newer) word is more precise rather than simply my commonplace understanding of it.
> I do appreciate that this might make difficult the interpretation of such a word into other languages, but a word as a stand-in for a concept should be translatable. When it isn't, we have cognates, and those are perfectly suitable. (I have noticed Francophones especially tend to dislike directly Anglophone cognates, instead coining their own word, one that is "more French").
> "Fluid" is ideal, in my opinion. As a native English speaker, it is both broad enough to encompass gasses as well as precise enough to include liquids (and gasses). Liquid, while it is more common in English (not by much), is not as flexible a word and is imprecise (distinctly wrong) for gasses. And as pipes carry both, we should prefer fluid over liquid.
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 12:16 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The common use of the word 'fluid' only includes liquids.
>> Not everyone is a scientist. Even worse is the job of interpreting this into other languages.
>> So, yes .. avoid the use of the word 'fluids'.
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