[OSM-talk] Should OSMF adopt a policy about State of the Map conference in places that are LGBTQ*/etc unsafe?

[john whelan]

Thank you for your permission to ignore your email.  I have shared it with
the mailing list in case anyone else might wish to ignore you as well.

Many thanks

Cheerio John


On Thu, Oct 7, 2021, 16:18 Amanda McCann <amanda.mccann at osmfoundation.org>
wrote:

> Oh sorry. I was trying to be nice, and well, friendly.
>
> Yes, you can ignore my email, or any email, if it's not relevant to your
> interests. 🙂
>
> On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 22:12 +02:00, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm really not happy with someone addressing me as friend without even
> > knowing them, or can I just ignore the message if I don't consider
> > myself your friend?
> >
> > Sometimes I just want to map rather than do the socialise thing.
> >
> > Thanks John
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 7, 2021, 3:31 PM Amanda McCann
> > <amanda.mccann at osmfoundation.org> wrote:
> >> Hello OSM friends,
> >>
> >> So here's an idea... I've previously complained when an organisation
> holds an event in a place where it's “illegal to be gay” and claim that the
> event is a “safe space”. Since I'm on the OSMF Board, I would be wrong for
> me to continue to complain about other organisations and not try to suggest
> such a policy for the OSMF.
> >>
> >> The OSMF grants a trademark licence (for the “State of the Map”
> trademark which the OSMF legally owns) to regional event conferences, and
> legally, the OSMF runs the annual State of the Map conference.
> >>
> >> There are several different wordings of this policy possible. My
> initial idea of a policy is: “you can't have a SotM for [REGION] in a venue
> if same-sex sexual activity is illegal (& that's being enforced) there,
> *and* there is a place in [REGION] where that is legal (or illegal & not
> enforced)”. This covers bi/pan/queer/etc people.
> >>
> >> I can't easily think of a simple rule for trans/gender identity issues
> that's as clear cut for the very basic level (e.g. many countries have
> required gender segregated toilets for a long time and the laws requiring
> ”birth sex” are new and uncommon, legal gender recognition might not be so
> relevant for a visitor, etc) so I'll stick to this for now. I am OK with
> “State of the Map [COUNTRY]” happening in a country where it's illegal
> everywhere. My goal is to prevent anyone having a *legal downgrade* with
> “State of the Map”.
> >>
> >> Many in OSM have spent a long time improving things for minoritized
> groups, and maybe this is just another step in that process. I am only
> mentioning “illegal to be gay” because it's a simple, clear standard. I
> think it could be benefitial to include other standards too (e.g. I believe
> some countries forbid women from driving). I am focussing on LGBTQ+ issues
> because that affects me personally, and I know a lot about it. I encourage
> other minoritized people to speak up if they want.
> >>
> >> So what do yous, the wider OSM(F) community think about the OSMF
> adopting this policy (or something like it, or not adopting anything new
> policy)?
> >>
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> St John’s Innovation Centre
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> Cambridge
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> United Kingdom
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