[OSM-talk] Was the deletion of Null Island reasonable?

[Sarp Hangişi]

The buoy itself is a seperate entity than null island, as detailed by the
note in the old null island node:

> This is not a duplicate of the Soul Buoy (node 3815077900). This node
maps the named place, which is NOT equal to the buoy, although located at
the same position. In accordance with "One feature, one OSM element" the
two nodes are mapped separately.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022, 03:41 Michael Collinson, <mike at ayeltd.biz> wrote:

> I don't have a rigid opinion though I do feel that if someone wants to
> know where something is then there is a didactic
> (instructive/educational) case, strong or not, for putting it in
> OpenStreetMap.
>
> Null Island does not physically exist but then neither do boundaries and
> it could be considered a point boundary and very precisely located (as
> distinct from the Bermuda Triangle). On the other hand, tagging it as an
> island is certainly not appropriate, 'cos it ain't. So on balance, the
> buoy, the name, wikipedia and a description tag seem reasonable. Adding
> place=locality might also meet consensus; I don' see much difference
> between it and the hundreds of names dotted across the rural moorland
> areas of my homeland that cannot be associated with a precise physical
> feature.
>
> Mike
>
> On 2022-01-03 13:53, Phil Wyatt wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > That's a NO from me - the island doesn't exist so it should not be in
> OSM.
> > The Buoy does exist so that should stay (whilst it is still in place)
> >
> > Cheers - Phil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Emil Linus Albrecht <admin at sandschmecktgut.de>
> > Sent: Monday, 3 January 2022 1:14 PM
> > To: talk at openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: [OSM-talk] Was the deletion of Null Island reasonable?
> >
> > Good evening, everyone,
> >
> >
> > This is a little outdated, yes, but debate has just sparked in the OSM
> World
> > Discord server about a deletion of something, some might consider the
> base
> > of everything: Null Island (Node #9028040143).
> >
> >
> > This has already been discussed a little on changeset #110097966, the
> > creation of the Null Island node, though I feel this needs to be
> discussed
> > more, as this can apply to other things as well.
> >
> >
> > I personally think, fictional stuff such as Null Island should be kept:
> >
> > * It has a Wikipedia page
> >
> > * German semi-educational TV show Galileo once covered it
> >
> > * It is in many other datasets
> >
> > * We also have Node #2327750884
> >
> >
> >
> > What do you all think? Should Null Island be kept? Please, let everyone
> > know!
> >
> > -Emil
> >
> >
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