[OSM-talk] link at https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Etiquette is broken

[Pierre Béland]

Hi Dorothea,

About the abusive message on talk, I just did that on july 11, sending a message to talk-owner at openstreetmap.org, but I am not sure if somebody receives these messages, if it triggers any action.

Pierre​

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Le mardi 12 juillet 2022 à 19:35, Dorothea Kazazi <dorothea at osmfoundation.org> a écrit :

> Answers inline:
>
> # "Moderators" link
>
>> Maybe directing it to
>> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Moderation_team_for_talk_and_osmf-talk_mailing_lists
>> would be better?
>
> I do agree that in cases like this a link to the page
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Moderation_team_for_talk_and_osmf-talk_mailing_lists
> would make more sense - that's why I initially [1] pointed the fixed "moderators" link to that
> page.
>
> However,
> * the approved etiquette text on the OSM wiki [2] was linking to the mailing lists page [3]
> * the etiquette is supposed to apply to all osmf-hosted communication channels, not just
> to talk@ and osmf-talk@ (that's why it was probably linking to the mailing list page in the
> first place).
>
> # Contacting the moderators of talk@ and osmf-talk@
>
>> Also, https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Moderation_team_for_talk_and_osmf-talk_mailing_lists
>> is missing info how they can be actually contacted.
>
> For the time being I added a contact section [4], mentioning the mailing list "owner" addresses,
> as all moderators see the emails sent there. The moderators have been notified about this.
>
> In the future, it might make sense to have dedicated group email addresses for the moderators of
> the two mailing lists, to have clearer separation from the mailing list admins and to spare their inboxes.
>
> warm greetings,
> Dorothea
>
> [1] https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Etiquette&action=history
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette
> [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
> [4] https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Moderation_team_for_talk_and_osmf-talk_mailing_lists#Contact_us
>
>> 11 lip 2022, 22:48 od dorothea at osmfoundation.org:
>>
>>> Hi Mateusz :)
>>>
>>> I fixed the link and also updated the page about mailing lists [1] on the OSM wiki.
>>> There is also a dedicated page for the team [2] on the OSMF website, linked from the OSM wiki as well.
>>>
>>> To my knowledge, there is no @osmfoundation.org email address for the moderation team of talk@ and osmf-talk@ yet.
>>> I am happy to create it, if the team requests it.
>>>
>>> warm greetings,
>>> Dorothea
>>>
>>> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
>>> [2] https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Moderation_team_for_talk_and_osmf-talk_mailing_lists
>>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 at 22:39, Mateusz Konieczny via talk <talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Etiquette has link
>>>>
>>>> "The [moderators](https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Mailing_lists&action=edit&redlink=1) for the mailing lists will follow the guidelines below."
>>>>
>>>> in word "Moderators" which links https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
>>>> page which is nonexisting.
>>>>
>>>> Can it be fixed?
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to request moderator action (due to this blatant
>>>> offtopic/spam/trolling in suicide thread - at least one is applying) and I have no idea
>>>> who should be mailed/pinged.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> talk mailing list
>>>> talk at openstreetmap.org
>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> talk mailing list
>> talk at openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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