[OSM-talk] "OSMF Response to OSM-Carto Frustration" Not the answer I expected

[Jeroen Hoek]

I'm a little surprised by the board's notes as well. I'm not sure if the
problem is all together clear.

On 04-06-2022 12:36, Włodzimierz Bartczak wrote:
>> Facilitate a framework to use localized styles for osm-carto: e.g. 
>> a Polish variant of the style could show parcel lockers on zoom 
>> levels only showing parts of Poland, without showing parcal lockers
>> elsewehere and so on.
> 
> Does no one here read with understanding? Polish community is not 
> about parcel machines. We are concerned about the way the style is 
> managed and the lack of rules on which it should be managed. Parcel 
> machines only showed the problem. (By the way, in the UK there are 
> going to be 10 000 of them by 2024, so it is "only" our Polish 
> issue).

Good point. This is not about each community desperately wanting their
own little piece of map. This can sometimes be useful for sure, but
OpenStreetMap is also a global community where ideally we try to find 
solutions to mapping problems for everyone, and despite plenty of 
negativity, we do have our shares of successes where mappers from 
different countries get together and figure out how to solve some problem.

Local variations in mapping are to be expected, but an outright
Balkanization of our community and its principal resources is ultimately
harmful. We might as well give up on the idea of transnational 
cooperation and a truly global mapping database then.

> But maybe we should think about what we want to convey through our 
> main site and how to show it. In my opinion, this is where the 
> discussion should start.

And in addition to that: how visitors use the main site and what they
expect from it. It's our calling card after all.