[Accessibility] choosing and extending tags

Mon Oct 19 13:43:26 UTC 2020

Hi Anson and accessibility group,

we started https://wheelmap.org ten years ago with the same goal as you:
help find and report wheelchair-accessible places. We are an
OpenStreetMap-based project (we use the OSM-tags wheelchair=yes/no/limited
and toilets:wheelchair=yes/no) and contribute submissions from the Wheelmap
community back to OSM.

Beyond that, we collaborate with other organizations who have such data.
Check out https://www.accessibility.cloud/ for a unified API of 2+ million
places and https://sozialhelden.github.io/a11yjson/ for our own standard to
describe the accessibility of places.

Eventually we want to have an open standard for this and started a
community working group at the W3C for that:
https://www.w3.org/community/lda/

Feel free to join and reach out!

Best regards,
Holger

--

*Holger Dieterich*
Vorstand *(Chairman)*
Wheelmap.org <https://wheelmap.org/> Mitgründer* (Co-Founder)*

SOZIALHELDEN e.V <http://www.sozialhelden.de/>., Andreasstr. 10, 10243
Berlin, Germany

Our projects: <https://sozialhelden.de/en/us/#projects>

<https://sozialhelden.de/en/us/#projects>

Am Mo., 19. Okt. 2020 um 13:09 Uhr schrieb <
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>    1. choosing and extending tags (parker, anson D (adp6j))
>    2. Re: choosing and extending tags (Martin Koppenhoefer)
>    3. Re: choosing and extending tags (Martin Koppenhöfer)
>    4. Re: choosing and extending tags (Nick Bolten)
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> From: "parker, anson D (adp6j)" <anson at virginia.edu>
> To: "accessibility at openstreetmap.org" <accessibility at openstreetmap.org>
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> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 12:15:21 +0000
> Subject: [Accessibility] choosing and extending tags
> Hi all -
> I have some friends here in town who are building a website aimed at
> helping individuals who use wheelchairs find restaurants and other spaces
>
> they are creating a set of filters for various accessibility features
>
> see the left hand side of this page for an example
>
>
> https://staging.bluetrunk.org/businesses/search?keyword=&destinationId=1&limit=5
>
> is there any reason all of these filters can't be added as tags in open
> street map?  are some of these tags already canonical?
>
> i can't think of any reason why this entire "site" couldn't just be a
> series of OSM queries..  then integrate with something like open routing or
> accessmap.io or ....
>
>  a  sorry if this is a bit off-topic, it's a nice group of folks and i
> just want to help them be more impactful... and i feel like if they focused
> on adding content to OSM and doing advocacy they'd be in a better place?
>
> bit of a rant there, thanks for any thoughts
> anson
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
> To: Accessibility <accessibility at openstreetmap.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:12:34 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Accessibility] choosing and extending tags
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>
> sent from a phone
> > On 18. Oct 2020, at 16:15, parker, anson D (adp6j) <anson at virginia.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > is there any reason all of these filters can't be added as tags in open
> street map?
>
>
> there is not
>
>
> > are some of these tags already canonical?
>
>
> probably ;-)
>
> You could make a list of all the filters/properties you want, then we can
> see what is already covered. It could maybe be useful to ask on the tagging
> mailing list as well.
>
> Cheers Martin
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Martin Koppenhöfer" <mk at koppenhoefer.com>
> To: Accessibility <accessibility at openstreetmap.org>
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> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:22:41 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Accessibility] choosing and extending tags
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> sent from a phone
> > On 18. Oct 2020, at 16:15, parker, anson D (adp6j) <anson at virginia.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > is there any reason all of these filters can't be added as tags in open
> street map?
>
>
> there is not
>
>
> > are some of these tags already canonical?
>
>
> probably ;-)
>
> You could make a list of all the filters/properties you want, then we can
> see what is already covered. It could maybe be useful to ask on the tagging
> mailing list as well.
>
> Cheers Martin
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nick Bolten <nbolten at gmail.com>
> To: Accessibility <accessibility at openstreetmap.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 13:51:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Accessibility] choosing and extending tags
> Looks great! Would be happy to talk about working together with
> AccessMap/OpenSidewalks (both projects consume and contribute OSM data) as
> well and getting this kind of data into OSM, assuming community support!
> I'd also be happy to have a discussion about the accessibility aspect of
> these filters and when it is practical to directly map accessibility info
> (e.g. wheelchair=yes on a building entrance) and when it can, more ideally,
> be interpreted from physical descriptions (e.g. mapping the width of a
> narrow path rather than adding wheelchair=no). I think most (all?) of your
> filters are about physical things, but it never hurts to chat!
>
> Some of the filter attributes are already tags in one way or another (like
> aspects of accessible parking:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:footway%3Daccess_aisle), but I
> would not be surprised if it's isn't always clear how to use them
> "correctly" for your purposes. This could be a good opportunity to research
> what tags are in use, how they're used, and record your results as
> documentation (improving the wiki, e.g.). And, of course, if there are no
> good existing tagging schemas, to propose new ones.
>
> Maybe a good starting place for collaboration would be for you to create a
> collaborative, public document for the tagging aspect of your project (on
> the wiki or somewhere else if that's not appropriate). Would be happy to
> give feedback and/or assist in tying it together with pedestrian ways.
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:15 AM parker, anson D (adp6j) <
> anson at virginia.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi all -
>> I have some friends here in town who are building a website aimed at
>> helping individuals who use wheelchairs find restaurants and other spaces
>>
>> they are creating a set of filters for various accessibility features
>>
>> see the left hand side of this page for an example
>>
>>
>> https://staging.bluetrunk.org/businesses/search?keyword=&destinationId=1&limit=5
>>
>> is there any reason all of these filters can't be added as tags in open
>> street map?  are some of these tags already canonical?
>>
>> i can't think of any reason why this entire "site" couldn't just be a
>> series of OSM queries..  then integrate with something like open routing or
>> accessmap.io or ....
>>
>>  a  sorry if this is a bit off-topic, it's a nice group of folks and i
>> just want to help them be more impactful... and i feel like if they focused
>> on adding content to OSM and doing advocacy they'd be in a better place?
>>
>> bit of a rant there, thanks for any thoughts
>> anson
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