[OSM-dev] osm pdf-atlas
openstreetmap at ostertag.name
Fri Jul 14 21:31:47 BST 2006
On Friday 14 July 2006 21:41, OJW wrote:
> On Friday 14 July 2006 20:26, Joerg Ostertag wrote:
> > Is there anything/anyone who is against this? And if so why?
> * Ease of download. Not everyone has an SVN client on all their computers.
> I'm often using other peoples' computers, and want to download the atlas
> code from there.
I think if you want/have wiki access you probably have a browser. So I assume
Downloading with a browser from
should be an easy alternative .
(Yes I sometimes do http with telnet, but it's probably not what the normal
user does ;-)
And if you are a Fan of "CUT 'n PASTE"; just click on the Files in the
Directory Listing let your Browser show them. And then Cut 'n Passte them
where ever you want ;-)
> * SVN ease of use. At the moment, I don't even know how to download one
> SVN directory without getting the whole archive of all OSM code.
The complete svn download is:
svn co http://svn.openstreetmap.org/
so take a wild guess how to only download a directory?
Yes it is:
svn co http://svn.openstreetmap.org/utils/osm-pdf-atlas
And if you refuse to use svn as client, then your Browser should be able to
download from the URL directly:
If you even got wget or any other downloader you can use this one to download
a complete directory too.
> * Changes by non-approved users.
As what i know it normally is no problem to get one of the SVN allowed users
to commit a good patch if you just send the patch or new file to the @dev
list. This most of the time works really fast.
> Only a few people have SVN access.
Well, as what I know there are quite some. You should give it a try how long
it 'll take to apply a patch into SVN if it's improving anything.
> might want other people to suggest changes to the config files (e.g. nick
> noticed that dunfermline had an inverted longitude and changed the wiki)
Exactly this is the problem. Now we seam to have 2 differing Versions. Or did
he check it into the svn? Or did he tell anyone that he changed it in the
wiki and someone else should update it in SVN?
> * Commenting and discussion features available on the wiki.
Every change in SVN needs a comment too. This enables you to see what was
changed in this Revision.
I don't want to delete the Descriptions to The source in the wiki. I just
wanted to move the Source Code itself to a Souce-Code-Repository(SVN).
> OK, I don't like using the wiki for source-code,
If it's more than 5 lines it's a real pain. I always have to look into all the
12 pages for osm-pdf-atlas (which are named different than the files they
belong to) in the wiki if something has changed. Then do a cut'n paste
(waiting for my browser to scroll to the end) and then i can diff and see
what really changed. A real PItA !!
If I use SVN i just do svn diff in the osm base dir and see: well there is new
stuff in the osm-pdf-atlas or in application xy. Or I just look at the RSS
Feed and there I can see what changed in any of the programs I'm interested
in. If it's something I'm interested in I can update it on my local PC with
> and I'm sure all these
> things are solveable if you put the effort in.
As what I think, these things are solved.
> But wiki is a
> useful backup
-> awfull backup
> for more complex systems.
Because it's too complex for sourcecode.
Sorry, but that's my attitude to this !!
> If the official version is going to be SVN, then at least put instructions
> on [[PDF atlas]] wiki page saying how to download it. Preferably
> instructions that don't involve downloading multi-megabyte SVN clients...
Is the http download described above acceptable?
Jörg Ostertag (München)
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