[OSM-dev] Sol Katz OSGEO award

Thu Aug 16 14:16:38 BST 2007

No reason to get rude at each other :-\

I think Chris has written a good motivation on the "why not to nominate
OSM people",
one that is just as valuable as a strong "why to nominate one of the OSM
people" which is indeed lacking at this moment.

I must say that after reading the response from Chris, I think we indeed
need far better arguments if we want to nominate OSM-people.
Frank Warmerdam is one of my personal heroes too. I admire Frank for the
way opensource projects where I often find his name attached have
poistioned. A lot of the projects are now stable, active and well adapted.
I really am a big fan of OSM too, but it needs a bit of shaping where it
comes to being professional, having a good organization structure and
setting solid standards. This in particular makes it the more
interesting to be part of the OSM community, tto watch and help it shape
to become top of the bill.

Mikel Maron schreef:
> Thankfully Chris is not on the committee choosing the award and the members of the committee are most likely more openminded.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Christopher Schmidt <crschmidt at metacarta.com>
> To: Corey Burger <corey.burger at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM-dev <dev at openstreetmap.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:49:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Sol Katz OSGEO award
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 09:43:20AM +0200, Corey Burger wrote:
>   
>> On 8/15/07, Christopher Schmidt <crschmidt at metacarta.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 03:26:36PM +0200, Milo van der Linden wrote:
>>>       
>>>> I think OpenStreetMap is a perfect candidate for this award!
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Sol_Katz_Award
>>>>         
>>> "The Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software (GFOSS)
>>> is awarded annually by OSGeo to *individuals who have demonstrated
>>> leadership* in the GFOSS community."
>>>
>>> OpenStreetMap is not an individual. If you were to nominate someone, you
>>> would need to nominate a *person*, not the organization.
>>>       
>> Shall we nominate one of the people from OSM then? Steve? Imi? Richard F?
>>     
>
> I see all those people as being wonderful leaders of the OpenStreetMap
> project, and in some cases perhaps even leadership in the open geo data
> community -- but I don't see OSM, or any of those individuals, as
> demonstrating leadership in the Geographic Free Open Source Software
> community. 
>
> FrankW (a previous winner of the award) has been working on a single,
> unified data abstraction layer for geodata for 10 years. Markus Neteler
> has been working on GRASS for many years as well, and has moved the
> software to being the essential Open Source GIS analysis project.  
>
> I don't think that OSM has its goals in open source software
> development: the attitude taken by the OSM project of "OSM is not GIS"
> seems representative here, and I'd say that's evidence enough that
> nominations for OSM developers for the Sol Katz award does not make much
> sense, from my point of view.
>  
> Regards,
>   

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