[OSM-dev] Tag Handling in the Database

Stefan Keller sfkeller at gmail.com
Thu Mar 27 22:45:31 GMT 2008

Hi Gerv and Mikel,

In community projects like OSM there's always a danger that technical issues
get suppressed by either 'democratised' processes or (not technically
oriented) opinion leaders. From what I understand you're concerns are well

So I'd like to bring back the discussion to the point:

Gerv: I see what your driving at and I know MediaWiki quite a bit. You're
proposals seem to be quite reasonable:

1. Proposed_Features and Map_Features should use compatible templates.
2. Proposals should be written in a style as if they were accepted
(unaccepted proposals would be automagically marked with something like
"This proposal is not yet official.")
3. All tag explanation pages *must* reside in the same namespace.

Then Mikel asked:
> Can the key/value, rendering rules and outputs, comments and descriptions,

> photos, and perhaps if we decide it makes sense, the "approval" process
> be abstracted to a model for use in rails? What would the goal look like,
> and are there small intermediate steps which are obtainable?

Can you explain that a little bit more?

-- Stefan

2008/3/27, Gervase Markham <gerv-gmane at gerv.net>:
> Frederik Ramm wrote:
> >> Believe it or not, I was being ironic when I wrote that.
> >
> > It was quite obvious that you were using the term "anarcho-
> > collaborativist" to pour scorn on my statement that the people who
> > cast votes in our project have no authority.
> Nothing as strong as scorn. I was merely stating what seemed to be the
> logical consequences of your position. Is anarchy not _defined_ as
> "no-one has any authority"?
> > On the other hand, starting to think of oneself (or one's project) as
> > "important" may be the beginning of the end of fun.
> I don't agree. The Mozilla project has been and continues to be highly
> important to keeping an open web, but I have a lot of fun working on it,
> as do many other people :-)
> > I don't know if you really *believe* that anyone who is against voting
> > in a project will surely accept his flat being burgled,
> That's not a fair summary of my position.
> > or if that is
> > just some kind of rhetoric that you employ to drag your opponents in
> > the mud.
> I'm sorry if you feel dragged in the mud; that was not my intention at
> all.
> Gerv
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