[HOT] H.O.T OSM manual and learning OSM in Uganda

Tue Dec 13 13:46:54 GMT 2011

Hi Daniel,

What kind of support in translation? I think school started which is part
of the reason the translation slowed.  Doing the translation is pretty easy
(just online through a website or using an application).

Us setting up presets is dependent on what people are trying to collect. We
can help you with the mapping to the OSM tags if you have a clear list of
what you are aiming to collect. The default presets are already translated
which helps quite a bit already I think.

Kate
On Dec 13, 2011 4:26 PM, "Daniel Oefele" <oefele at googlemail.com> wrote:

>  Hi Emir.****
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> Thanks for the offer. A presentation in Bahasa Indonesia would be very
> helpfull.****
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> Some other questions:****
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> Can we support you translating the rest of JOSM into Bahasa Indonesia?****
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> Is HOT planning to set up more presets specialy for Indonesia? I am
> especially thinking about Health, Education, Water and Sanitation. For our
> mapping in east Indonesia thats the kind of information that is needed
> most. ****
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> I think about tags for health facilities in different administrative
> levels (Desa, Kecamatan, Kabupaten/Kota, Provinsi). If we would have a had
> tag for administrative level we could combine that with a more general tag
> for health facilities. Same could be done for education, government offices
> and police.****
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> What do you think about that? Is there maybe a tagging option already I
> don’t know about – especially the health tags are a bit confusing on the
> wiki.****
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> Cheers Daniel****
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> *From:* Emir Hartato [mailto:emir.hartato at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 13 Desember 2011 19:26
> *To:* Daniel Oefele
> *Cc:* Douglas Musaazi; hot
> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] H.O.T OSM manual and learning OSM in Uganda****
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> Hi Douglas,****
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> I am working as an intern with HOT for pilot in Indonesia.****
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> I agree with with Daniel, using Potlatch is not an option for us. But I
> believe we included a little introduction to Potlatch 2 and how to adding
> POI to the map. And in my opinion, using JOSM is better than Potlatch:****
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> 1. Works offline and you can save your work****
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> 2. Avoid mistakes by using validation tools****
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> 3. Plugins which makes your edit easier****
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> 4. Tagging presets (you can make your own preset and put it on JOSM)****
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> 5. You can translate JOSM into your own local language, we did translate
> half of it into Bahasa Indonesia ****
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> ..and more features****
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> But it you feel using Potlatch is more comfortable, well that is up to you
> =)****
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> Anyway, I did check on those link, some of lines are overlapped, but
> buildings are good =)****
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> And I agree with Daniel, you should create tasking manager because most of
> overlapped objects are caused by multiple edit (same area of interest at
> the same time). Or, simply, before you starting your mapping day:****
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> 1. Print the whole area that you want to be mapped by clicking Export tab
> on OSM site****
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> 2. Divide those area by drawing grids on the printed map. For example, if
> you have 4 surveyors then you might want to divide it into 4 grids)****
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> 3. Now each surveyor has a specific area to map, and when they put the
> data into OSM, it should be okay now. A minor edit would be needed to
> connect all the map =)****
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> Good luck Douglas! :)****
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> And for Daniel, we have introduction slides. Do you need it in English or
> Bahasa? I only have Bahasa version, ask Kate if you want English one :)***
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> -- ****
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> *Best Regards,*
> *Emir Hartato*
>
> *Departement of Geography*
> *University of Indonesia
> Ph: +628567755182*
> *t: @emirhartato*****
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> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Daniel Oefele <oefele at googlemail.com>
> wrote:****
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> Hi Douglas.****
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>  ****
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> The links look good. I am working in Kupang, East Indonesia and also
> training people (government, NGOs, students) how to use OSM and JOSM.
> Postlach is for us not an option – internet access is not fast and stable
> enough. We are working with the HOT training material as well (in Bahasa
> Indonesia). What is missing so far are some slides for a introduction – do
> you have some power points you want to share? I usually start the training
> with some of the videos from http://geospatialrevolution.psu.edu/ ****
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> What could be interessting for you is the Tasking Manager (probably you
> know it already) to avoid overlapping edits on your mapping days. We have a
> task for Kupang (http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/5) and its really impressiv
> to see how many different people are  mapping here even though its not a
> desaster area.****
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> Happy mapping****
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> Daniel****
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>  ****
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> *From:* Douglas Musaazi [mailto:douglasmusaazi at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* 13 Desember 2011 17:24
> *To:* hot at openstreetmap.org
> *Cc:* talk at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* [HOT] H.O.T OSM manual and learning OSM in Uganda****
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>  ****
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> Hi all,****
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> We have started training some people about how to go about OSM, using the
> H.O.T training manual. JOSM is a good editor, but  was wondering why it's
> the only one that was included in the manual.****
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> Otherwise the manual is concise, we are even including potlatch 2 as one
> of the training topics, among others and by the end of the training, we
> hope we would have well skilled people who will be contributing to
> providing geographical data to the open street world map.****
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>  ****
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> Fruits of thought (http://www.fruitsofthought.org) supports the mapping
> days (http://www.mappingday.com) that are held at given intervals in a
> year, to introduce mapping and the open street map to the participants, the
> features mapped on a mapping day can take a while to be fully updated
> correctly as most of the participants are new to OSM, we hope, after the
> training we shall have some more people who will have a better
> understanding of what OSM is all about.****
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>  ****
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> Notable edits in some of the selected areas of Uganda include:****
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> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0.29531&lon=32.61574&zoom=17&layers=M***
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> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0.30763&lon=32.61526&zoom=17&layers=M***
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> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0.68169&lon=34.19327&zoom=16&layers=M***
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> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0.380935&lon=32.558124&zoom=18&layers=M*
> ***
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> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0.35489&lon=32.74168&zoom=17&layers=M***
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> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0.348045&lon=32.573484&zoom=18&layers=M*
> ***
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>  ****
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> These are just some of the links that can be identified, and is not an
> exhausted list of all the edits, there might be some that we do not know
> of, but during the mapping day we covered some of the links above, and in
> some of the areas correcting and editing features is still in progress.
> However it is clear that there is more work that needs to be done, but the
> good part is that the mapping community continues to grow.****
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>  ****
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> If you can spare some time and visit the above links, it would be good to
> have a feed back from you. There is just one link that was edited with
> JOSM, which can easily be identified, and the rest with potlatch.****
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>  ****
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> Yours Truly
>
> Douglas Ssebaggala Musaazi
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