[HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 26, Issue 24
Robert Colombo Llimona
robertcolombo at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 21:23:58 BST 2012
Great explanation!One more thing to ad is the feeling that ESRI is counting with oSM and the feeling that many things Are changing in emergencies: croud or community Are on the grid for humanitarian action more than ever!
Enviat desde l'ipod de la Eva i en Robs.
El 11/04/2012, a les 20:38, hot-request at openstreetmap.org va escriure:
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> 1. Feedback from the Red Cross, UN people, and Esri: YOU (OSM)
> are GREAT!!! (Jean-Guilhem Cailton)
> 2. Activation working group (tim)
> 3. Re: Mali follow-up: OrbView-3 images of Anefis,
> And?ramboukane and Aguelhok available (Jean-Guilhem Cailton)
> 4. Re: Feedback from the Red Cross, UN people, and Esri: YOU
> (OSM) are GREAT!!! (Mikel Maron)
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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:47:12 +0200
> From: Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>
> To: hot at openstreetmap.org
> Cc: OSM-talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [HOT] Feedback from the Red Cross, UN people, and Esri: YOU
> (OSM) are GREAT!!!
> Message-ID: <4F85A780.7000403 at arkemie.com>
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> Hi,
>
> Last week, I was at the conference "GIS for the United Nations and the
> International Community", a conference organized by UNITAR's Operational
> Satellite Application Programme (UNOSAT) and Esri, April 3-5, 2012, at
> the World Meteorological Organization, in Geneva, Switzerland.
>
> The main message I'd like to get back to each and everyone of you, from
> the almost unanimous feedback I received and witnessed while I was
> there, is that OpenStreetMap is rather well known and very much
> appreciated among the people who attended the conference. It is
> difficult to carry across the kind of recognition and gratefulness that
> I felt for the work of OSM volunteers, and no expression can be
> exaggerated to convey it. I am not saying that Ban Ki-moon knows about
> OSM as much as he probably knows about Google, for instance, but at
> least the UN people connected in some (possibly remote) way to GIS know
> about it, and some are really well aware of the strengths (and also of
> course of the weaknesses) of OSM.
>
> Even in the panel that I attended in the first panel session,
> "Geographic Information in Postcrisis - Transition to Stability and
> Redevelopment", where OSM was not explicitly on the agenda, it came up
> in the knowledgeable and lively discussion that followed, with some
> strong opinions expressed about the "commercial" character of the
> licence (from the point of view of this mostly humanitarian audience),
> and the restrictions it implies, a topic that deserves more development
> and to which I'll come back later in another post.
>
> The next day, I was a panelist in "Open Data and the Crowd:
> Collaborating for Action", a panel moderated by Ryan Lanclos, Esri,
> where I had been invited at the last minute to represent H.O.T. It was a
> really very interesting panel, with Lars Bromley, UNITAR/UNOSAT, Jihad
> Abdalla, Emergency Officer at UNICEF/EMOPS, Andrej Verity, UNOCHA, and
> Fr?d?ric Zanetta, IFRC. UNOSAT had made their own experiments about
> crowd-sourcing, and were well aware of its difficulties. I presented OSM
> in general, and in particular the remote mobilization for Haiti (with an
> extract of Tim Berners-Lee video at TED 2010) followed by field projects
> there, with the example of the STM_020 project in Saint Marc, Haiti,
> where I had just spent a month (I'll also come back to this later). I
> think, judging from later interventions, that I managed to get across
> the message that OSM is first of all a community (rather than a
> "crowd"). A similar point was also later expressed from the audience,
> with someone saying that organizations should "engage" with the "crowd",
> not "use" it. In his conclusion, Andrej Verity encouraged the audience
> "not to be afraid" to engage "the crowd".
> After this panel, my personal feeling was an exhilarating one that
> apparently everyone, from the panel and the interventions from the
> audience, had a desire to move forward, iteratively improving
> cooperation processes, and solving problems as they might arise.
>
> In the next panel that I attended, of particular interest was the
> presentation by Ren? Saameli, of the ICRC, of the mapping of Walikale,
> DR Congo, to support the Red Cross water supply project there, jointly
> by remote OSM volunteers, who digitized the satellite image acquired by
> the Red Cross, by local Red Cross representative and correspondents, who
> collected field information, like names of streets and suburbs or points
> of interest, on Walking Papers (with no need for GPS units - which would
> be too costly if this process is to be repeated on a large scale), and
> remote OSM volunteers again, who entered WP info into the database, to
> produce a complete and accurate map of the town. Analyzes, such as
> population repartition estimation based on digitized buildings, could
> then also be conducted. The ICRC was so pleased by this project, as well
> as previous joint work with OSM (like for mapping Osh in Kirghiztan
> during the 2010 troubles there) that he declared that they are preparing
> a Memorandum of Understanding with HOT, and envision the possibility to
> have volunteers who would be both "Red Cross" and "HOT", as the Red
> Cross and OSM are both mainly volunteers movements. Big credit goes to
> Fr?d?ric Bonifas for building this trust relationship over the years.
> Here is an interview about this collaborative mapping:
> http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/interview/2012/mapping-interview-2012-04-05.htm
> Getting closer to the Red Cross and its millions of volunteers
> worldwide, for those interested, could be a way to bridge the missing
> link between the potential of OSM tools and the (mostly unmapped and
> unconnected) local communities of the developing world, where they could
> be really useful to make a difference.
> And this could also be a popularity boost for OSM, by making lay people
> aware of the link between maps and humanitarian action.
> Like Ren? said off the record, it could be a reply from "humanitarians
> with boots on the ground" to the World Bank/Google agreement that made
> some noise earlier this year.
>
> The closing session offered summaries of the panels that had taken place
> in parallel. A summary of the summaries was: "Free the data!" (instead
> of keeping it in silos where it is difficult for others to access and use).
>
> One of the visions that Jack Dangermond, founder and president of Esri,
> shared, is that over more than 40 years in the field of GIS, he had
> witnessed a few revolutionary technological changes: remote sensing,
> GPS, and now, crowd-sourcing.
>
> The main points of Esri's presentations that might be of interest here are:
> - the recently released version 2.0 of ArcGIS editor for OSM
> (https://esriosmeditor.codeplex.com/),
> - the general move towards "the cloud", with the ability to share
> hundreds of thousands of maps online, even for those without their own
> server,
> - the possibility to easily create (point) map layers from spreadsheets
> (containing geo-coordinates columns) ("as easy as drag and drop"),
> - data collection tools on mobile devices (directly derived from data
> models).
> They also recalled that they have a program to supply software licenses
> to nonprofit organizations, which could apply to HOT (at least).
>
> HXL (Humanitarian eXchange Language) is a draft standard, initiated by
> OCHA, designed to address the problem that "information sharing is
> becoming the bottleneck to efficient aid".
>
> This conference allowed me to meet people from the Red Cross, MapAction,
> UN-OCHA, USAID/OTI, ACTED,... and GIS and information officers from
> South Sudan and Pakistan. By the way, who would like to help organize a
> mapping party in Islamabad?
>
> I also had the pleasure to meet St?phane Henriod, who is interested in
> natural disasters data and in contributing to OSM in Tajikistan, as you
> may have seen on the HOT list, and Robert Colombo, who was "the guy in
> the audience always asking many good, thought provoking, questions" (and
> had activated SBTF, GisCorps and HOT to collect health facilities info
> for Libya, from his position at WHO in Tunis). And it was, as always, a
> pleasure to be able to chat with Fred Moine, who must now be back in
> Haiti for IOM. Thanks to Mikel for introducing me to the panel
> moderator, and to Nicolas for introducing me to his contacts who were
> likely to be at the conference.
>
> But maybe the best surprise for me was an "African citizen" (who works
> in the UN) who came to me after my presentation to tell me that he
> thought that OSM could be a development and democratization tool that
> African youths, who have for instance contributed to the recent
> democratic change in Senegal, could use to organize themselves and to
> manage their own communities. This matched perfectly the vision that we
> had in Haiti with Nicolas... So let's make it happen!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:29:23 -0400
> From: tim <timothieb at gmail.com>
> To: hot at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [HOT] Activation working group
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> Hoping to join the call tomorrow - but have not be able to connect the
> last two times I tried to get onto the #hot IRC channel for calls. It
> just hangs.
>
> Regardless here is some food for thought.
>
> 1. In our emergency response agency you could categorize our
> activation / plan guidance into two groups: the first group guidance
> is specifc to incidents of a certain type e.g. an earthquake
> activation, a heat wave activation, a flood activation; the second
> group is specific to operations / response needs e.g.debris clearance,
> evacuation, food distribution - which could be triggered by a range of
> different incidents and can be pulled off the shelf, mixed and matched
> - a more modular approach.
>
> 2. You may have seen the message below from the crisis mappers list
> already but thought I would attach it for anyone who didn't.
>
> Tim
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John Crowley <bostoncello at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:15 PM
> Subject: [CrisisMappers] Disaster Songbook: coordinating the crowd
> To: "crisismappers at googlegroups.com" <crisismappers at googlegroups.com>
>
> Friends,
>
> As I awoke this morning to news that we might be replaying the Boxing
> Day tsunami from 2004 all over again, I watched the actions across my
> various email, skype, and twitter channels and got anxious. We have
> made so much progress on technology and practice since 2004, and we
> now have a community of dedicated and talented crisis mappers, and
> yet, our coordination is still not where it could be.
>
> I realized that I had no ability to predict who was awake and who was
> working which issue. Did we need imagery; which areas of interest
> (AOIs) and when would the next potential satellite pass be? Did we
> need maps; how current are those areas in either Google MapMaker or
> OpenStreetMap? Did we have a method of pulling in social media and
> making sense of it; or would we wait for activation? Yes, had the
> emergency unfolded differently, we would have got to these questions
> eventually, but wouldn't it be great if questions like these--or
> perhaps better ones--were deeply ingrained in all our heads, like a
> musician know his or her scales?
>
> For a while now, I have been thinking about bringing concepts from
> jazz into humanitarian information management. As a classically
> trained cellist, I had to relearn to think in this way, as my
> experience has been very different. For thirty years, I was taught how
> to realize "scores"--musical blueprints that specify in great detail
> what each voice should be doing at any given moment in the music work.
> That approach works when you have a full understanding of the universe
> of possibilities--when the score is a completed architecture and just
> needs to be "recreated." This is the approach of many disaster
> management agencies. That said, with disasters, improvisation is
> needed; we need to make the music as we go, and we cannot predict what
> any given actor will need to do at any one time.
>
> That said, however 'unspecified and unscoped' the response operation
> may become does not necessarily mean we as crisis mappers need to be
> 'out of harmony or rhythm.' In jazz, there is a shared oral tradition
> that everyone learns: a set of melodies, harmonies, and rhythms and a
> morality around how to interact using those shared patterns in an
> ensemble. Together, musicians with such a common understanding can
> take even a fragment of a melody and create incredible structures that
> they did not have planned out when they played the first note. What if
> we had such a system for our crisis mapping work? What if we could
> know who is doing what with which tool and community, and how it all
> is weaving together into a (harmonious) whole, without over-specifying
> who does what or recreating ossified bureaucracies that move slowly?
>
> Yes, we are making progress towards this end with shared protocols,
> trainings, and experiments. But we need to bring those efforts
> together again. We need to develop the ingrained, practical knowledge
> sometimes called metis.
>
> I would like to advocate that we start work on such a song book, so
> that the next major disaster, we all have a basic song list to play
> off (with all the melodies, chords, and rhythms implied), and the
> ability to predict what each other will be doing, even if only in
> rough outlines. That way, we can improvise more effectively together.
>
> Who wants to jam? We need to build some riffs.
>
> John Crowley
>
> Research Fellow at the Harvard Humanitarian Initiative and
> Lead for the Camp Roberts Experiments @ NDU/STAR-TIDES
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:26:23 +0200
> From: Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>
> To: Fr?d?ric Bonifas <fredericbonifas at gmail.com>
> Cc: hot at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mali follow-up: OrbView-3 images of Anefis,
> And?ramboukane and Aguelhok available
> Message-ID: <4F85DADF.1070203 at arkemie.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi,
>
> The OrbView-3 images for these three towns are now integrated in the
> Tile Service at the same URL previously given
> (i.e.:
> for JOSM:
> tms:http://osm.arkemie.org/cgi-bin/tiles/1.0.0/mali/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
> and for Potlatch 2:
> http://osm.arkemie.org/cgi-bin/tiles/1.0.0/mali/$z/$x/$y
> )
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
> Le 08/04/2012 13:56, Fr?d?ric Bonifas a ?crit :
>> The google doc is already updated, and 3 Orbview3 images can be used
>> for the cities of Anefis, And?ramboukane and Aguelhok :
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiGw62ddccqhdEZ4Vi1hVmRKNmVseHpFOWVrdWR2Nmc
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> Le 8 avril 2012 13:41, Fr?d?ric Bonifas <fredericbonifas at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have updated the Mali wiki page to emphasize the need for imagery
>>> and what can already be mapped :
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2012_Mali_Crisis#Things_to_do
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fr?d?ric Bonifas
>>> +33672652807 skype:fredericbonifas
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> gpg 0x5939EAE2
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:38:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
> To: Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>, "hot at openstreetmap.org"
> <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Cc: OSM-talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Feedback from the Red Cross, UN people, and Esri:
> YOU (OSM) are GREAT!!!
> Message-ID:
> <1334173098.88956.YahooMailNeo at web161601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> thanks for the wonderful summary of the conference JGC, sounds like a great success ... can we get this up on the HOT blog?
> ?
> * Mikel Maron *?+14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>
>> To: hot at openstreetmap.org
>> Cc: OSM-talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:47 PM
>> Subject: [HOT] Feedback from the Red Cross, UN people, and Esri: YOU (OSM) are GREAT!!!
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Last week, I was at the conference "GIS for the United Nations and
> the International Community", a conference organized by UNITAR's
> Operational Satellite Application Programme (UNOSAT) and Esri,
> April 3-5, 2012, at the World Meteorological Organization, in
> Geneva, Switzerland.
>>
>> The main message I'd like to get back to each and everyone of you,
> from the almost unanimous feedback I received and witnessed while
> I was there, is that OpenStreetMap is rather well known and very
> much appreciated among the people who attended the conference. It
> is difficult to carry across the kind of recognition and
> gratefulness that I felt for the work of OSM volunteers, and no
> expression can be exaggerated to convey it. I am not saying that
> Ban Ki-moon knows about OSM as much as he probably knows about
> Google, for instance, but at least the UN people connected in some
> (possibly remote) way to GIS know about it, and some are really
> well aware of the strengths (and also of course of the weaknesses)
> of OSM.
>>
>> Even in the panel that I attended in the first panel session,
> "Geographic Information in Postcrisis - Transition to Stability
> and Redevelopment", where OSM was not explicitly on the agenda, it
> came up in the knowledgeable and lively discussion that followed,
> with some strong opinions expressed about the "commercial"
> character of the licence (from the point of view of this mostly
> humanitarian audience), and the restrictions it implies, a topic
> that deserves more development and to which I'll come back later
> in another post.
>>
>> The next day, I was a panelist in "Open Data and the Crowd:
> Collaborating for Action", a panel moderated by Ryan Lanclos,
> Esri, where I had been invited at the last minute to represent
> H.O.T. It was a really very interesting panel, with Lars Bromley,
> UNITAR/UNOSAT, Jihad Abdalla, Emergency Officer at UNICEF/EMOPS,
> Andrej Verity, UNOCHA, and Fr?d?ric Zanetta, IFRC. UNOSAT had made
> their own experiments about crowd-sourcing, and were well aware of
> its difficulties. I presented OSM in general, and in particular
> the remote mobilization for Haiti (with an extract of Tim
> Berners-Lee video at TED 2010) followed by field projects there,
> with the example of the STM_020 project in Saint Marc, Haiti,
> where I had just spent a month (I'll also come back to this
> later). I think, judging from later interventions, that I managed
> to get across the message that OSM is first of all a community
> (rather than a "crowd"). A similar point was also later expressed
> from the audience, with someone saying that organizations should
> "engage" with the "crowd", not "use" it. In his conclusion, Andrej
> Verity encouraged the audience "not to be afraid" to engage "the
> crowd".
>> After this panel, my personal feeling was an exhilarating one that
> apparently everyone, from the panel and the interventions from the
> audience, had a desire to move forward, iteratively improving
> cooperation processes, and solving problems as they might arise.
>>
>> In the next panel that I attended, of particular interest was the
> presentation by Ren? Saameli, of the ICRC, of the mapping of
> Walikale, DR Congo, to support the Red Cross water supply project
> there, jointly by remote OSM volunteers, who digitized the
> satellite image acquired by the Red Cross, by local Red Cross
> representative and correspondents, who collected field
> information, like names of streets and suburbs or points of
> interest, on Walking Papers (with no need for GPS units - which
> would be too costly if this process is to be repeated on a large
> scale), and remote OSM volunteers again, who entered WP info into
> the database, to produce a complete and accurate map of the town.
> Analyzes, such as population repartition estimation based on
> digitized buildings, could then also be conducted. The ICRC was so
> pleased by this project, as well as previous joint work with OSM
> (like for mapping Osh in Kirghiztan during the 2010 troubles
> there) that he declared that they are preparing a Memorandum of
> Understanding with HOT, and envision the possibility to have
> volunteers who would be both "Red Cross" and "HOT", as the Red
> Cross and OSM are both mainly volunteers movements. Big credit
> goes to Fr?d?ric Bonifas for building this trust relationship over
> the years.
>> Here is an interview about this collaborative mapping: http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/interview/2012/mapping-interview-2012-04-05.htm
>> Getting closer to the Red Cross and its millions of volunteers
> worldwide, for those interested, could be a way to bridge the
> missing link between the potential of OSM tools and the (mostly
> unmapped and unconnected) local communities of the developing
> world, where they could be really useful to make a difference.
>> And this could also be a popularity boost for OSM, by making lay
> people aware of the link between maps and humanitarian action.
>> Like Ren? said off the record, it could be a reply from
> "humanitarians with boots on the ground" to the World Bank/Google
> agreement that made some noise earlier this year.
>>
>> The closing session offered summaries of the panels that had taken
> place in parallel. A summary of the summaries was: "Free the
> data!" (instead of keeping it in silos where it is difficult for
> others to access and use).
>>
>> One of the visions that Jack Dangermond, founder and president of
> Esri, shared, is that over more than 40 years in the field of GIS,
> he had witnessed a few revolutionary technological changes: remote
> sensing, GPS, and now, crowd-sourcing.
>>
>> The main points of Esri's presentations that might be of interest
> here are:
>> - the recently released version 2.0 of ArcGIS editor for OSM (https://esriosmeditor.codeplex.com/),
>> - the general move towards "the cloud", with the ability to share
> hundreds of thousands of maps online, even for those without their
> own server,
>> - the possibility to easily create (point) map layers from
> spreadsheets (containing geo-coordinates columns) ("as easy as
> drag and drop"),
>> - data collection tools on mobile devices (directly derived from
> data models).
>> They also recalled that they have a program to supply software
> licenses to nonprofit organizations, which could apply to HOT (at
> least).
>>
>> HXL (Humanitarian eXchange Language) is a draft standard,
> initiated by OCHA, designed to address the problem that
> "information sharing is becoming the bottleneck to efficient aid".
>>
>> This conference allowed me to meet people from the Red Cross,
> MapAction, UN-OCHA, USAID/OTI, ACTED,... and GIS and information
> officers from South Sudan and Pakistan. By the way, who would like
> to help organize a mapping party in Islamabad?
>>
>> I also had the pleasure to meet St?phane Henriod, who is
> interested in natural disasters data and in contributing to OSM in
> Tajikistan, as you may have seen on the HOT list, and Robert
> Colombo, who was "the guy in the audience always asking many good,
> thought provoking, questions" (and had activated SBTF, GisCorps
> and HOT to collect health facilities info for Libya, from his
> position at WHO in Tunis). And it was, as always, a pleasure to be
> able to chat with Fred Moine, who must now be back in Haiti for
> IOM.
> Thanks to Mikel for introducing me to the panel moderator, and to
> Nicolas for introducing me to his contacts who were likely to be
> at the conference.
>>
>> But maybe the best surprise for me was an "African citizen" (who
> works in the UN) who came to me after my presentation to tell me
> that he thought that OSM could be a development and
> democratization tool that African youths, who have for instance
> contributed to the recent democratic change in Senegal, could use
> to organize themselves and to manage their own communities. This
> matched perfectly the vision that we had in Haiti with Nicolas...
> So let's make it happen!
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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