[HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch

Theodin theodin at posteo.de
Mon Feb 3 18:59:54 UTC 2014


Reading this about the splitting of tasks made me think:
In the future, we/a programmer could add a "join back together"-button
if someone accidentially split a task in too tiny bits?

But I'm just brainstorming here...

Theodin

Am 03.02.2014 19:31, schrieb Pierre Béland:
> This version looks great and yes we should move on to implement it.
>
> I am in general quite satisfied of the Task Manager and we have already discussed of some
> enhancements that could make it even more powerful.
>
> Two points in this version that could proabably be modified to give more control to the
> coordinators and experienced mappers over the control of the jobs. From my experience coordinating
> various Activations with the Tasking Manager, I see two elements in particular where inexperienced
> people cause problems in managing the Task manager job. We have already tried to find solutions
> for these. From the feedback using these functionalities, I think that we will continue to
> progress to a more robust Task Manager.
>
> 1. Validation
> I am also of the opinion that we should rethink this function. There are other ways to validate,
> and letting anybody validate do not assure a good validation process. Plus there is the Invalidate
> button.  The problem we are faced with, with the Validation function is that we cannot Invalidate
> the Validation.
>
> If we keep the Validation step, we could assure that once the task status has moved to Validated,
> mappers do still have access to this task
> a. to see info for this task in JOSM
> b. To invalidate the task if this is incomplete. This way if an inexperience mapper click
> successively on a task, we are still able to Invalidate the task
>  
> 2. Split function
> I suspect that new mappers do not know well sometime where to click and sometimes endup dividing
> tasks in tiny, tiny ones that are not easily manageable.  A more descriptive button for Split plus
> a bubble note describing the Split function, would assure a better interaction with the software.
>
> Other then that, I have to say that the Task Manger is a great tool for mapping. The experience in
> november with the Philippines Activation shows our capacity to escalate and coordinate well with
> this tool. assure that we cover systematically large zones with various workfows.  We have mapped
> two our three times more then for the Haiti Earthquake in 2010.
>
> A great thank Pierre for this and I hope that we will have the opportunity in 2014 to continue to
> improve this excellent tool.
>  
> Pierre
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De :* Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
> *À :* Pierre GIRAUD <pierre.giraud at gmail.com>; HOT Openstreetmap <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> *Envoyé le :* Lundi 3 février 2014 8h46
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch
>
> Pierre
>
> Thanks for the update, great to hear about the progress and new UI features. 
>
> So I'm clear, you're talking about
> merging https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager/tree/workflow
> into https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager
> ?
>
> And by v2, are we talking about this version?
> https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2
>
> On validation, I agree it needs a rethink. There is definitely a need for validation in some form.
> But I'd hesitate to remove functionality, the current validation without replacing it with
> something else. I suggest we keep it for now, and move on discussion of what this should really
> look like.
>  
> -Mikel
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2014 1:48 PM, Pierre GIRAUD <pierre.giraud at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     It's been a while now that I've started working on a "workflow" branch (more than a year ago).
>     The main purpose of this development was to improve the user experience by simplifying the
>     interface a bit.
>
>     This branch is the one used for the instance working at http://tasks2.hotosm.org
>     <http://tasks2.hotosm.org/>.
>
>     I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge the work into the
>     master branch and update the main instance. It will also eventually allow us to remove this
>     second instance. I will do my best to retrieve the data as well.
>
>     For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface modification, the main enhancement
>     is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only mode. This allow users to share a link to
>     the task they are working on for example.
>     I also got rid of the "validation" process because it has been the source of problems
>     recently. Let's rethink this feature if we really need it. People still can invalidate tasks
>     though.
>
>     If no one is fiercely against i, I'll do the merge later this week.
>
>     This will help me give an answer to Mikel and others who were asking me how much work is left
>     to get v1 functionnalities in v2.
>
>     Regards,
>     Pierre
>
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