[HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch

Pierre GIRAUD pierre.giraud at gmail.com
Tue Feb 4 15:54:38 UTC 2014

Hey Harry!

You read my mind.
Let's try without validation.

I'm pretty sure that the validation feature can be re-added in a near
future. We just need to find a way to have something easy to understand for
the end user. And I am convinced that if it's simple for the end-user it
will not require to much effort to implement.
For the most motivated of us, I think that UI mockups are a neat way to
brainstorm and share ideas.


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Harry Wood <mail at harrywood.co.uk> wrote:

> Seems people aren't sure about the idea of removing the validation step,
> but I think it's good idea. I'm sure Pierre is suggesting this change
> having looked quite carefully at the way people are using the task manager
> system.
> The idea of validation was to allow pro-mappers to coordinate the process
> of double-checking over the area of a whole job, without too much
> duplication of that double-checking effort, but how many whole jobs has
> this happened on? It's easy to see the validation step has not been adopted
> much. Either we don't have many pro-mappers with confidence to validate, or
> they're not that interested in doing validation (perhaps because we have a
> steady flow of new jobs work on)
> And the thing which is always easy to overlook, the feature comes at a
> cost. It makes the system that little bit more complex to understand.
> I like the idea of trying without validation. A compromise might be to
> have it as some sort of hidden feature, but then that's effort to develop
> something which few users see.
> Harry
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> From: Pierre GIRAUD <pierre.giraud at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 18:46
> Subject: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch
> Hi all,
> It's been a while now that I've started working on a "workflow" branch
> (more than a year ago). The main purpose of this development was to improve
> the user experience by simplifying the interface a bit.
> This branch is the one used for the instance working at
> http://tasks2.hotosm.org.
> I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge
> the work into the master branch and update the main instance. It will also
> eventually allow us to remove this second instance. I will do my best to
> retrieve the data as well.
> For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface modification,
> the main enhancement is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only
> mode. This allow users to share a link to the task they are working on for
> example.
> I also got rid of the "validation" process because it has been the source
> of problems recently. Let's rethink this feature if we really need it.
> People still can invalidate tasks though.
> If no one is fiercely against i, I'll do the merge later this week.
> This will help me give an answer to Mikel and others who were asking me
> how much work is left to get v1 functionnalities in v2.
> Regards,
> Pierre
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