[HOT] Boosting LearnOSM

Sun Jul 20 14:31:24 UTC 2014

Hi Severin,

Are you happy to switch to Transifex if it means retranslating everything?
The strings between languages need to be matched up and there isn't a way
we can do that automatically. This is the major reason we haven't tried to
do it previously.

As for the license between the OSM wiki and LearnOSM that is true they are
not the same. Information can go from LearnOSM to the wiki but not the
other way because of the share-a-like.

-Kate

On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Severin Menard <severin.menard at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am happy we switch to Transifex, the GitHub editor was a real pain and a
> real blocker for non GitHub experienced people (like me).
>
> Regarding Nick's idea of linking LearnOSM and the OSM wiki for eg
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager, is it possible?
> It would be great, but I thought LearnOSM has unfortunately another license
> than the OSM wiki.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Nick Allen <nick.allen.54 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> I agree that more is needed. Based upon the problems I was finding when
>> validating, I've started to produce a guide
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Tallguy/Thoughts_%26_ideas/Beginners_guide
>> but it is at an early stage, and requires updating now that TM2 is out. I
>> feel that there is a gap between 'how to map', and what you actually need
>> to do to start to map for HOT. If we can produce a guide that covers how to
>> map your first square showing how to avoid the common mistakes, maybe we
>> can stop most of them.
>>
>> http://mapgive.state.gov/  <http://mapgive.state.gov/> have a very good
>> guide to mapping with iD
>>
>> As a temporary thing, I've linked both off of
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager  but the main
>> wiki on the Tasking manager needs updating now we have TM2.
>>
>> My initial thought, is that TM2's release gives the perfect time to
>> update the wiki. The wiki is really under the wrong heading - it's main
>> name is 'OSM_Tasking_Manager, but it deals with a number of things
>> including JOSM offsets & validating.
>>
>> It would be good if there was some discussion & a consensus as to what
>> goes where, and how we are going to get it there.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Nick (Tallguy)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19/07/14 02:05, Kate Chapman wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rafael,
>>
>>  Sounds like a great idea. The InaSAFE project uses Transifex not just
>> for translating the software but also for translating the documentation.
>> The one issue in mind holding back the switch over is that LearnOSM is in
>> many languages now, so I would see the steps as follows.
>>
>>  1. Update the English documentation and get it into Transifex.
>> 2. Retranslate documentation from other languages.
>>
>>  This would be painful certainly the first time, but then in the future
>> if the documentation was updated on the sections that were changed would
>> show up as in need of translation. Is that the method you see?
>>
>>  Some of the HOT Indonesia team can speak to the issues with translating
>> documentation in Transifex. The biggest issue I think (correct me if I'm
>> wrong team) is if the "master" documentation language has a lot of tweaks.
>> Meaning it works best if there is a "release" of the documentation and then
>> the translations start.
>>
>>  Best,
>>
>>  -Kate
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
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>>> Hi all:
>>>
>>> I wonder if we can gather some people interested in boosting the
>>> LearnOSM project. Now that the new Tasking Manager is out, it could be
>>> really nice to improve the learning/training materials. In my opinion,
>>> there are at least two points that need to improve:
>>>
>>> 1) Translation through git is not a good idea, as it is very
>>> complicated for most of the people. Would it be possible to carry the
>>> translation through Transifex, like with the Tasking Manager and uMap,
>>> for example? Images would be left aside of the translation, but there
>>> can be an smart way to deal with that.
>>>
>>> 2) Reorganize the material, and probably create some more.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rafael.
>>>
>>> - --
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya
>>>
>>> - --------------------------------
>>>
>>> Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls,
>>> .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer,  non os abro.
>>>
>>> Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos.
>>>
>>> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros
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