[HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 51, Issue 3

John Andersson john.andersson at wikimedia.se
Fri May 2 08:45:49 UTC 2014


Hi everybody,

I have contributed to HOT for a few months now and I love this project! I have followed this list closely, but this is actually my first post here. 

I would strongly suggest that HOT focus on using Translatewiki.net as its translation platform, instead of Transifex. Translatewiki.net  is already used by OSM and have a very active translation community. This community already know and use the vocabulary, something that would increase consistency of the translations.  

Also, Wikimedia Sverige will launch a large project this year where we will focus on improving documentation to make Translatewiki.net even easier to use, creating and adding Open Badges for the project etc. 

John

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>    1. Re: Road tracing in North Nigeria and eHealth Africa data
>       imports (Rafael Avila Coya)
>    2. Transifex translation service for HOT projects (Dra?en Odoba?i?)
>    3. Re: Doodle for First Meeting of Communications Working Group
>       (Kate Chapman)
>    4. Re: Transifex translation service for HOT projects
>       (Severin Menard)
>    5. Activation Working Group (Severin Menard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 13:11:47 +0100
> From: Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com>
> To: Pierre B?land <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
> Cc: "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Road tracing in North Nigeria and eHealth Africa
> 	data	imports
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> Hi, Pierre:
> 
> Thank you for sharing your comments.
> 
> We are actually importing the boundaries at the ward level (see for
> example this area of Jigawa and Yobe states that have already their
> inner boundaries imported to the OSM database:
> http://osm.org/go/wSyuEK4-- ) following the corresponding import wiki:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Africa_Boundaries
> .
> 
> About the tagging, we decided to use place=district and addr:district
> for LGA's (admin_level 6) and place=municipality and addr:municipality
> for the wards (admin_level 8) for consistency with worldwide tagging.
> 
> addr:distric redirects to this wikipedia page:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District . We found that definition quite
> matching what an LGA is in Nigeria. And wards are, for their size, and
> discussing with people that have travelled through all these states
> for the last 2 years, quite equivalent to what we know as municipality
> in European countries.
> 
> The other alternative would be to use place=lga plus addr:lga and
> place=ward plus addr:ward, but 'lga' is not a documented (and probably
> not used at all) tag, and ward looks to be meant for areas inside a
> metropolitan area.
> 
> We haven't still not used those place and addr: tags so far, and I
> wonder if any has used them for address tagging in Nigeria, so any
> comments about this (and anything else) are very welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rafael.
> 
> On 01/05/14 07:24, Pierre B?land wrote:
> > Hi Rafael,
> > 
> > This is awesome all of this. You are doing a great job with the
> > highway classification.
> > 
> > In the Hackpad, the territorial division is presented with States
> > LGA's and Wards levels. Boundary limits could be easily add for
> > each if you have the limits. But I dont understand the proposition
> > to use new values Places tag classification (ie. place=district and
> > municipality).
> > 
> > Pierre
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > 
> *De :* Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com>
> > *? :* "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org> *Envoy? le :*
> > Lundi 28 avril 2014 14h54 *Objet :* [HOT] Road tracing in North
> > Nigeria and eHealth Africa data imports
> > 
> > Hi all:
> > 
> > As you may remember from a thread about a month ago, there is a
> > NGO, eHealth Africa ( http://ehealthafrica.org
> > <http://ehealthafrica.org/>), that asked for a job to be created in
> > the Task Manager for tracing the roads of Kano state in N Nigeria (
> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/474 <http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/474>),
> > to help vaccination teams trying to eradicate the polio in 10
> > states of N Nigeria. As the job wasn't being done in a proper way,
> > specially road tagging, I sent them some emails telling they had to
> > both get some training and have a consistent tagging reference
> > (find here the road proposal I made, and that was said to be fine
> > by the people interested in mapping Nigeria: 
> > https://hackpad.com/Proposal-of-road-tagging-system-for-Nigeria-5YvMa3u2bqE
> >
> > 
> , that we are already using as reference). I volunteered to come to
> > help with that, and ended up being hired for a month. I am
> > therefore in Kano, Nigeria, since two weeks ago.
> > 
> > The road tracing is in itself a huge and very interesting job, and 
> > they are planning to follow that job with all northern states of 
> > Nigeria. But as I landed here, I discovered that eHealth Africa has
> > a huge and awesome set of data, with millions of GPS points, lots
> > of well traced residential areas (more than 2,400 for Kano state
> > only), all wards, LGA's and state boundaries for those 10 states
> > plus all LGA's and state boundaries for the rest of Nigeria, more
> > than 100,000 nodes with place names, location of hamlets, health
> > facilities, schools, water facilities, mosques, market places,
> > etc.
> > 
> > All that data (except for the boundaries of the states not included
> > in the 10-North-states-list), has been gathered in the field, using
> > lots of GPS-enabled devices, by eHealth teams of around 60 people
> > during the last 2 years, and they gave us full permission to import
> > all that data to OSM (I have with me the HOT document of
> > authorisation). I've been assessing all that data to see what could
> > be imported to the OSM database and how, and wrote a hackpad about
> > it: https://hackpad.com/eHealth-Data-Import-hKeQZhVqQeR
> > 
> > If anyone wants to test that data, just let me know and I give you
> > the link to it.
> > 
> > Any comments, help or ideas are very welcome.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Rafael.
> > 
> > _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list 
> > HOT at openstreetmap.org <mailto:HOT at openstreetmap.org> 
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> > 
> 
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> Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya
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> 
> Por favor, non me env?e documentos con extensi?ns .doc, .docx, .xls,
> .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, a?nda podendoo facer,  non os abro.
> 
> Atendendo ? lexislaci?n vixente, empregue formatos est?ndares e abertos.
> 
> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 16:35:38 +0200
> From: Dra?en Odoba?i? <dodobas at geoinfo.geof.hr>
> To: "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [HOT] Transifex translation service for HOT projects
> Message-ID: <53625BBA.3010806 at geoinfo.geof.hr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> we are going to try to use Transifex localization service to maintain and
> improve HOT project localization. Transifex is essentially a paid service,
> however it's free for open-source projects. There is also an open-source code
> repository https://github.com/transifex/
> 
> Transifex service has an command line utility which enables, almost unattended,
> localizations integration. The drawback is that we should let the CLI utility to
> handle all translations, making Transifex the only source of translations. I'm
> not sure how are we going to handle translation file merging, and how does
> Transifex work when we remove some strings/terms from the initial source files
> (English).
> 
> At the moment, I've only configured hot-export project and it's quite easy to
> add new languages. https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/hot-export/
> 
> I've also noticed that some of strings/terms are not really used, so we probably
> should do some spring cleaning.
> 
> Dra?en
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 11:18:31 -0400
> From: Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com>
> To: hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Doodle for First Meeting of Communications Working
> 	Group
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAGn7mOogDCpa9MXstXJ64m6H0+-tJmJvi9DXNjdev25PnWVdVA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Just a reminder if you are interested in being a member of this group
> please note your availability on the Doodle. I'd like to announce the
> meeting time at the end of the day tomorrow.
> 
> http://doodle.com/3545epmy63x72gvk
> 
> -Kate
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > As announced last week HOT is reactivating the working groups(1), some
> > have been quiet for a while and some have not previously existed. I've
> > created a Doodle to start of the Communications working group(2). At the
> > first meeting we will begin the Terms of Reference for the working group
> > and decide on a meeting schedule.
> >
> > Please note your interest in the Wiki and availability in the Wiki.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Kate
> >
> > (1)
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Working_groups
> > (2) http://doodle.com/3545epmy63x72gvk
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> Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 23:26:11 +0200
> From: Severin Menard <severin.menard at gmail.com>
> To: Dra?en Odoba?i? <dodobas at geoinfo.geof.hr>
> Cc: "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] Transifex translation service for HOT projects
> Message-ID:
> 	<CA+y5pB+nSWYGC9g3+4sKYubeU6rX9ZaB1Tdq2EDWSkmvW34j2Q at mail.gmail.com>
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> Hi Drazen,
> 
> Big thanks for this: I did the translation inti French in the past and I
> wish at that time I could use Transifex that I already knew from the
> Inasafe documentation.
> If one day you do the same for LearnOSM, you will be my hero.
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Severin
>  Le 1 mai 2014 16:37, "Dra?en Odoba?i?" <dodobas at geoinfo.geof.hr> a ?crit :
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > we are going to try to use Transifex localization service to maintain and
> > improve HOT project localization. Transifex is essentially a paid service,
> > however it's free for open-source projects. There is also an open-source
> > code
> > repository https://github.com/transifex/
> >
> > Transifex service has an command line utility which enables, almost
> > unattended,
> > localizations integration. The drawback is that we should let the CLI
> > utility to
> > handle all translations, making Transifex the only source of translations.
> > I'm
> > not sure how are we going to handle translation file merging, and how does
> > Transifex work when we remove some strings/terms from the initial source
> > files
> > (English).
> >
> > At the moment, I've only configured hot-export project and it's quite easy
> > to
> > add new languages. https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/hot-export/
> >
> > I've also noticed that some of strings/terms are not really used, so we
> > probably
> > should do some spring cleaning.
> >
> > Dra?en
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > HOT mailing list
> > HOT at openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 02:51:54 +0200
> From: Severin Menard <severin.menard at gmail.com>
> To: "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [HOT] Activation Working Group
> Message-ID:
> 	<CA+y5pBJi35CEY_JpVWtz-xfkg1DRCN5wh_FpZ6h-LpWkbzGrcA at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Among the reactivated Working Groups, here is the Activation Working Group.
> Activations are more and more numerous and successful with a increasing
> number of contributors. The results are really impressive, but we can
> certainly do even better.
> 
> As for the Communication Working group (for those interested, please fill
> ASAP its Doodle <http://doodle.com/3545epmy63x72gvk>) we could start with a
> kick-off meeting on Mumble <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble>,
> and here is a Doodle to set it:
> 
> http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i  <http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i>
> 
> This meeting and the ones that will follow aim at being a time to exchange
> on this thrilling topic, review the experiences, documents, procedures and
> set goals to be achieved for the next meeting. Because yes, a Working Group
> is a group that works, that means between the meetings. And actually, it is
> already happening: eg there are (more and more) people working on data
> validation, both through setting procedures and monitoring the freshly
> created data.
> 
> I see 4 main topics around the Activation (but would be pleased to get
> other suggestions):
> 
> 1. All the *activities* and *documents* involved in an Activation. In the
> past the Activation Working Groups mostly focused on how Activations are
> triggered and start, what we could review based on the last experiences.
> Crisis monitoring is certainly something we could add, in order not to
> forget crisis of smaller range or simply not highly covered by the medias.
> Also technical aspects like: define and prioritize AOIs (Areas of
> Interests) and mapping goals, track and monitor the mapping progresses, and
> set thin, flexible and efficient processes, tools, and wiki templates, etc.
> But also share and document how to maintain and even grow the contribution
> of the OSM contributors and communities, by communicating with them (like
> this Working Group will do), proposing more different kinds of tasks to do
> or setting joint events.
> 
> 2. The *beneficiaries*, that means the humanitarian stakeholders. We need
> both to make them aware of the data we produce and to make the data useful
> and easy to use for them, taking more into account their needs, constraints
> and tools. I got recent feedback from the GIS officers in the UN that I
> will share.
> 
> 3. The *data*. What needs to be mapped is quite known, but how to do it to
> make it as clean and efficient as possible. That links to the mapping
> instructions and the
> validation<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data>but
> also to how the data can be reused by the humanitarian stakeholders.
> There a lot of potential improvements to propose not only raw data but eg
> thematic dataset, what the HOT Exports can already potentially provide (in
> link with the Technical Working Group).
> 
> 4. Last, but really not least is to *make more OSM contributors know* about
> the procedures and tools used to map, monitor, communicate and activate an
> OSM community, and expand the number of contributors in the Activations,
> according to everyone's interest(s). This implies connecting with local OSM
> communities when possible, talk with them and provide them documentation
> and online training. Eg in Lubumbashi after Jorieke's stay, the contact
> with the local OSM community has been maintained and voluntary online
> training has been and will be provided through Mumble. So now, they are
> continuing the mapping (see https://twitter.com/OSM_L) and will take an
> active part on the Mapping in London on Saturday. And if ever a crisis
> unfortunately hits Lubumbashi in the future, they will be able to trigger
> the worldwide OSM community
> 
> 
> Exciting, isn't it? And actually a lot of topics and sub-topics. And some
> are certainly missing. This is why this Activation Working Group will not
> need one leader but several facilitators, who, by their experience, skills
> and will, will make things go ahead on the topic(s) they care.
> 
> Let us make things move on and activate the AWG!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Severin
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