[HOT] bother adding source=Whatever to each object?

Ray Kiddy ray at ganymede.org
Mon Nov 3 19:01:18 UTC 2014

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:51:52 +0100
Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's more logical to put it on the changeset.
> Like when you draw a building, and add source=bing. But then someone
> who lives there gives it a name, and forgets to alter the source, the
> object has data that can't be derived from the source. So it's in
> fact your edit operation that has a source, not the object itself.

I had wondered about this when I saw multiple source values on an
object. I mean, which other attributes came from which source?
Technically the source should map to the subset of the attributes that
were observed from that source, but in real life, I would have no idea
how that could be presented in a way anyone would understand.

> As such, source=Bing is by many mappers preferred on the changeset
> (also because it keeps the database a bit smaller).

> When you edit with JOSM, you can add the source manually as a tag to
> the changeset (which is handy if your source is a survey or offline
> source). In iD, it automatically logs the imagery used in the
> changeset, but you don't get an option to give other sources (which
> is why many people still put a source on the objects).

So I understand this to mean that if you are putting in an object from
the imagery in front of you, you do not need to do anything else. I am
not seeing that iD is attaching this anywhere but I may not be looking
in the right place. But as long as the database sees it, I do not need

Take away point, I do not need to set the source 100 times and I am
good with that.

cheers - ray

> Regards,
> Sander
> 2014-11-03 19:41 GMT+01:00 Ray Kiddy <ray at ganymede.org>:
> >
> > Hello -
> >
> > This is probably a somewhat basic question about editing for HOT
> > tasks.
> >
> > As I have been editing in various HOT tasks, I have been adding
> > something like source=Bing (where that is the imagery) onto every
> > road, every building, every ... everything that I create. Need I
> > bother with this?
> >
> > I have seen in (perhaps just some tasks') instructions that I could
> > also just put this on the changeset comment. So I can just add it
> > to the changeset once instead of adding it to the object 100 times?
> >
> > If it could be put on the changeset comment and not on every object,
> > that would be convenient. It would also explain why, when I look at
> > all of the objects others have created, I hardly ever see a source
> > value.
> >
> > So, am I doing too much work by re-entering the source value every
> > time? What is the level of diligence expected here?
> >
> > thanx - ray
> >
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