[HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

Blake Girardot bgirardot at gmail.com
Wed Oct 22 21:55:15 UTC 2014

Hi Ray,

Thank you for the kind words.

My only comment is that learning JOSM will be much easier than you think.

The nice thing about JOSM is that you do not need to learn very much at 
all to get started using it effectively.

http://learnosm.org/en/beginner/start-josm/ is a great learning site for 

It will make all your mapping easier and quicker so for sure any effort 
spent learning it will pay off a lot later.

Then as you go forward, if you need more functionality you can explore 
JOSM more, it is very configurable and extensible.

One thing is to get the "buildings_tools" plugin installed right away. 
This is the demonstration video for the plug in and it shows quickly how 
to install it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEQo4Jm-aPY

As always, just ask if you have any questions.

Best wishes,

On 10/22/2014 5:19 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:12:44 -0400
> Blake Girardot<bgirardot at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I intend to re-do this how-to I made in answer to a question on this
>> list a little while back:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=042TbopS7HM
>> It was done without much preparation and to answer some specific
>> questions so it needs some adjustments (and I make a mistake in
>> mapping if you look closely), but I think it is close to what you are
>> talking about for a quick description of mapping buildings.
>> It also uses iD as that is what the person who asked the question
>> used and it is what most new mappers will be using.
>> There should be one like it for JOSM as well which I will do.
>> I will also do a second one about roads in each editor.
>> Regards,
>> Blake
> This video is really great. I went to a presentation in Oakland CA
> last week where I was introduced to HOT and my first thought when doing
> something at home was "... there has to be a video that explains some
> of this ..." and here it is.
> Any hints on how to fix this thing with iD? One clicks on Line or Shape
> and there is a __huge__ tooltip which completely gets in the way of
> using the pointer. It goes away eventually but, wow. Bothersome to say
> the least.
> Well, I grabbed a copy of the source for iD on github. We will see.
> Or, perhaps I have too much experience with other mapping tools and am
> already hitting the "OMG I have to learn JOSM" point in my mapping
> career. I imagine most people hit that wall and most get past it.
> I am going to try to use iD for a while and see if I can find more
> videos like Blake's. And as I figure things out, I might record some
> myself. Onwards and upwards and all that.
> cheers - ray
>> On 10/21/2014 7:58 AM, john whelan wrote:
>>> So the fantasy would be a simple screen cast video using something
>>> like HOT task 690 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690 since it uses
>>> the high resolution satellite imagery, Kevin Bullock's presentation
>>> http://vimeo.com/91880883 covers why this type is best to work
>>> from, the interesting bit starts 5 mins in to the presentation,
>>> locally there have been some clean up issues with lower resolution
>>> satellite imagery and mentioning the use of the JOSM building plug
>>> in as mentioned by Tom Taylor
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JkiL8wlvJqdVMgGxKXPzF22YzQ-S08Q31zZQna9CTMk/edit
>>> To come back to the original topic I think you need an overview,
>>> starting perhaps with a couple of interviews from two or three AID
>>> agencies about why the OSM maps are important to them and how they
>>> are used.  Then flip to the sources of data which are made free to
>>> use such as DigitalGlobe, UN place names, and finally a few mappers
>>> putting it altogether.  Given that the maps are useful perhaps
>>> Unicef or someone might have some resources for this?  Or the BBC?
>>> Cheerio John
>>> On 21 October 2014 01:42, Kate Chapman<kate.chapman at hotosm.org
>>> <mailto:kate.chapman at hotosm.org>>  wrote:
>>>      Hi John,
>>>      There are a few videos out there, but I don't know of too many
>>>      recent ones. You are right a simple screencast showing how to
>>> map a building for example would be really helpful. I made some
>>> videos in 2010 about mapping from imagery in Haiti and people
>>> really enjoyed them.
>>>      Having updated ones would be great.
>>>      Best,
>>>      -Kate
>>>      On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:59 PM, john whelan
>>> <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>>  wrote:
>>>          Talking of videos are there any training videos about what
>>> HOT expects?
>>>          The reason I ask is that although we break down to give
>>> tasks can we break it down even more.  ie teach someone to do a
>>> simple task of map a building using high resolution satellite
>>> imagery, sounds dumb but map one in JOSM, q it to square it, tag it
>>>          building=yes, select,<Crtl>c move the mouse to another
>>> <crtl>v, adjust the four corners, q again etc.
>>>          The concept is we can teach people to map buildings on
>>> You-tube, its simple and has value.
>>>          Another would teach people how to recognise a road and to
>>> tag it or highway=path.
>>>          We may need expertise to map things like water bodies,
>>> rivers, streams and forests but buildings and footpaths in Africa
>>> are probably 80% of what needs to be mapped and you don't need a
>>>          degree in GIS to do this.  Let's delegate what we can.
>>>          Cheerio John
>>>          On 20 October 2014 15:55, Kate Chapman
>>> <kate.chapman at hotosm.org<mailto:kate.chapman at hotosm.org>>  wrote:
>>>              Hi All,
>>>              Is there a video you think best represents our work?
>>> Most videos seem to focus on one project or are a talk at a
>>>              conference. Do we have anything that is less specific?
>>>              Thanks,
>>>              -Kate
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