[HOT] Training or Coaching Task / Project within TM?
Nick Allen
nick.allen.54 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 13 07:11:12 UTC 2014
Claire,
I'm sorry to hear that. I've put next week in my diary.
Keep up the good work.
Nick
On 13/09/14 03:20, Claire Halleux wrote:
> Ralph and Nick,
> Thank you very much for your suggestions.
> Unfortunately we were forced tonight to report the event for security
> reasonsus, it will therefore take place next Saturday instead.
> However, despite that fact, data are still urgently needed in order to
> improve the response coordination and they cannot be waiting for
> another week.
> HIU and others have been doing their best to deliver new imagery this
> night, so I will set up new tasks tomorrow morning, any volunteer will
> be able to access those tasks throughtand we still need to trace on it
> in order to fill the gaps between the previous past tasks.data are
> still quite needed on.
>
> Claire Halleux
> Volunteer and Member of the Board
> +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>
> http://www.hotosm.org/
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Nick Allen <nick.allen.54 at gmail.com
> <mailto:nick.allen.54 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Claire,
>
> I may be able to help a bit at the start of the session, but I
> have a commitment for most of the day & evening - if there are any
> outstanding squares for validation I will try to join in later at
> night.
> Could I suggest we try to keep it as close to normal as possible
> - if I check a square & am happy, I will validate it, but may put
> a comment in the comments box concerning any slight changes I may
> make. Because of my lack of language skills, I created these two
> links on the wiki which could be pasted into the comments box &
> hopefully would help to pass information;
> Buildings which have not been squared, but should have been
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback
>
> Not adding a changeset comment when saving / uploading
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing
>
> I sometimes send a message using the OSM message system, and on
> occasion have linked the message with screenshots showing the
> changes I have made.
>
> I strongly suspect that smaller squares will mean that it is more
> difficult to interpret
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa but this
> will not be the fault of the new mapper, just an indication of how
> difficult it is when you can only see a small area. It will need
> the validator(s) to take an overview of several squares & change
> the tags appropriatly - this is fairly easy once the mapper has
> done the difficult & time consuming job of tracing the path /
> track / unclassified / residential ............. way.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards & have a good day.
>
> Nick
>
> On 12/09/14 02:51, Claire Halleux wrote:
>> Hi Nick and Volunteers,
>>
>> On Saturday morning, from 900 to 1300 UTC, we'll be having
>> another small mapathon/mapping party in Kinshasa in order to edit
>> Ebola affected area in DRC, using some new imagery. Nearly all of
>> the participants will be beginners, so I am planning to create
>> another task with small squares and I think this could be a good
>> place for testing this type of training task. Potential
>> validators will be welcome to send feedback during the event. As
>> it usually gathers between 10 and 20 participants, a few
>> validators would be enough in theory.
>> Let me know if anyone would like to support this event,
>>
>> Moreover, do you think exchanging messages within TM and OSM
>> website will be enough? or should we try to set up an additional
>> skype group or anything else for the event? IRC? (local
>> participants have never used it as far as I know, same with Mumble).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Claire
>>
>> Claire Halleux
>> Volunteer and Member of the Board
>> +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>
>> http://www.hotosm.org/
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Nick Allen
>> <nick.allen.54 at gmail.com <mailto:nick.allen.54 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Ralph,
>>
>> Thanks for the offer of help - you're likely to see a request
>> for help approaching the 30th September when we have another
>> Missing Maps Project Mapathon in London.
>>
>> I'm really hoping that Blake can make progress on a guide to
>> satellite imagery - it's been on my todo list for some time,
>> but I'm conscious I've started many things and it would be
>> good if I actually finished a few of them. Although I agree
>> that starting new mappers with crisp images would be good, I
>> think it would be good to include a few fuzzy ones in the
>> guide to show what you have to deal with sometimes - educated
>> guessing?
>>
>> At the moment I'm not intending to contact mappers who have
>> not marked as complete the squares they have opened. There
>> can be genuine reasons - it's happened to me several times.
>> It can also be a question of confidence & I don't want to
>> frighten anyone away. If we can get a trial area, and the
>> trial works, then this may largely solve the problem. I think
>> also that the general discussion will have raised awareness &
>> that can make a difference as well.
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> Nick
>> (Tallguy)
>>
>> On 09/09/14 17:53, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:
>>> Hi Nick,
>>>
>>> I have been mapping the Africa HOT projects and am familiar
>>> with the 'on the ground' knowledge of some parts of Africa.
>>>
>>> I like your idea for assisting the new mappers and agree
>>> that some of the image material is pretty difficult to map
>>> due to various reasons...cloud cover, fuzzy images or
>>> overcrowded towns and slum areas to mention some.
>>>
>>> Choosing easier areas with sharp images would help the new
>>> mappers to get the feel of the work and build up confidence,
>>> and having feedback for their work early on would help them
>>> to know if they are doing the right thing or not.
>>>
>>> To this end I am willing to give you a hand in helping new
>>> mappers to read the imagery, create more complex building
>>> shapes and the use of basic tags. Please let me know if
>>> there is anything I can do to help.
>>>
>>> I have come across the increasing problem of mappers not
>>> happy about marking squares as done, I have gone to numerous
>>> squares and apart from a few tweaks there is nothing left to
>>> do, but a number of mappers have opened that square, looked
>>> around and then unlocked it again. I feel guilty marking
>>> those squares as done when I have hardly done any work on
>>> them. Should we contact the person that has done the most
>>> work and tell them they have done well and could they please
>>> go back in and mark it as done so they get the credit for
>>> closing it?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ralph
>>
>>
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>>
>> Nick
>>
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> Nick
>
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>
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