[HOT] Training or Coaching Task / Project within TM?

Claire Halleux claire.halleux at hotosm.org
Sat Sep 13 02:20:15 UTC 2014


Ralph and Nick,
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
Unfortunately we were forced tonight to report the event for security
reasonsus, it will therefore take place next Saturday instead.
However, despite that fact, data are still urgently needed in order to
improve the response coordination and they cannot be waiting for another
week.
HIU and others have been doing their best to deliver new imagery this
night, so I will set up new tasks tomorrow morning, any volunteer will be
able to access those tasks throughtand we still need to trace on it in
order to fill the gaps between the previous past tasks.data are still quite
needed on.

Claire Halleux
Volunteer and Member of the Board
+243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team

http://www.hotosm.org/
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Nick Allen <nick.allen.54 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Claire,
>
> I may be able to help a bit at the start of the session, but I have a
> commitment for most of the day & evening - if there are any outstanding
> squares for validation I will try to join in later at night.
>  Could I suggest we try to keep it as close to normal as possible - if I
> check a square & am happy, I will validate it, but may put a comment in the
> comments box concerning any slight changes I may make. Because of my lack
> of language skills, I created these two links on the wiki which could be
> pasted into the comments box & hopefully would help to pass information;
> Buildings which have not been squared, but should have been
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback
>
> Not adding a changeset comment when saving / uploading
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing
>
> I sometimes send a message using the OSM message system, and on occasion
> have linked the message with screenshots showing the changes I have made.
>
> I strongly suspect that smaller squares will mean that it is more
> difficult to interpret
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa but this will not
> be the fault of the new mapper, just an indication of how difficult it is
> when you can only see a small area. It will need the validator(s) to take
> an overview of several squares & change the tags appropriatly - this is
> fairly easy once the mapper has done the difficult & time consuming job of
> tracing the path / track / unclassified / residential ............. way.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards & have a good day.
>
> Nick
>
> On 12/09/14 02:51, Claire Halleux wrote:
>
> Hi Nick and Volunteers,
>
>  On Saturday morning, from 900 to 1300 UTC, we'll be having another small
> mapathon/mapping party in Kinshasa in order to edit Ebola affected area in
> DRC, using some new imagery. Nearly all of the participants will be
> beginners, so I am planning to create another task with small squares and I
> think this could be a good place for testing this type of training task.
> Potential validators will be welcome to send feedback during the event. As
> it usually gathers between 10 and 20 participants, a few validators would
> be enough in theory.
> Let me know if anyone would like to support this event,
>
>  Moreover, do you think exchanging messages within TM and OSM website
> will be enough? or should we try to set up an additional skype group or
> anything else for the event? IRC? (local participants have never used it as
> far as I know, same with Mumble).
>
>  Best,
>
>  Claire
>
>   Claire Halleux
>  Volunteer and Member of the Board
> +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
>  Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>
>  http://www.hotosm.org/
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Nick Allen <nick.allen.54 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  Ralph,
>>
>> Thanks for the offer of help - you're likely to see a request for help
>> approaching the 30th September when we have another Missing Maps Project
>> Mapathon in London.
>>
>> I'm really hoping that Blake can make progress on a guide to satellite
>> imagery - it's been on my todo list for some time, but I'm conscious I've
>> started many things and it would be good if I actually finished a few of
>> them. Although I agree that starting new mappers with crisp images would be
>> good, I think it would be good to include a few fuzzy ones in the guide to
>> show what you have to deal with sometimes - educated guessing?
>>
>> At the moment I'm not intending to contact mappers who have not marked as
>> complete the squares they have opened. There can be genuine reasons - it's
>> happened to me several times. It can also be a question of confidence & I
>> don't want to frighten anyone away. If we can get a trial area, and the
>> trial works, then this may largely solve the problem. I think also that the
>> general discussion will have raised awareness & that can make a difference
>> as well.
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> Nick
>> (Tallguy)
>>
>> On 09/09/14 17:53, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>>  I have been mapping the Africa HOT projects and am familiar with the
>> 'on the ground' knowledge of some parts of Africa.
>>
>>  I like your idea for assisting the new mappers and agree that some of
>> the image material is pretty difficult to map due to various
>> reasons...cloud cover, fuzzy images or overcrowded towns and slum areas to
>> mention some.
>>
>>  Choosing easier areas with sharp images would help the new mappers to
>> get the feel of the work and build up confidence, and having feedback for
>> their work early on would help them to know if they are doing the right
>> thing or not.
>>
>>  To this end I am willing to give you a hand in helping new mappers to
>> read the imagery, create more complex building shapes and the use of basic
>> tags. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
>>
>>  I have come across the increasing problem of mappers not happy about
>> marking squares as done, I have gone to numerous squares and apart from a
>> few tweaks there is nothing left to do, but a number of mappers have opened
>> that square, looked around and then unlocked it again. I feel guilty
>> marking those squares as done when I have hardly done any work on them.
>> Should we contact the person that has done the most work and tell them they
>> have done well and could they please go back in and mark it as done so they
>> get the credit for closing it?
>>
>>  Regards
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Nick
>>
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>
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