[HOT] Mapping IDP camps in Maguindanao, Philippines

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Sat Apr 4 15:35:25 UTC 2015

Given the resources available I think it would be better to reduce the
scope and first map major roads and say settlements of more than five
houses.  If I look at what has been mapped a lot of individual buildings
have been mapped which is good but in the same time far more buildings
could have been mapped in settlements.

Currently I'm mapping another two projects both at 90+%, one one I'm
practically the only mapper left and and the other a high priority one the
number of active mappers completing tiles has dropped off considerably

So basically the concern if you like is this project is quite difficult to
map all the attributes asked for, a sample tile would be useful.  To be
honest unless it says on the roof in large friendly letters what it is it
could be a barn, warehouse, school, public building or place of worship.
So you can map a tile for roads, settlements and large buildings that look
interesting but you can't really tick the box to say its done and sometimes
box ticking helps the motivation.  The Philippines might be the place to
look for mappers who are motivated and know something about the area.

Cheerio John

On 4 April 2015 at 10:31, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Hi John
> Yes, this is important to zoom in enough. This is a tropical country and
> there is dense vegetation that sometimes partly obscure the buildings. In
> comparizon, it is easier then to map for the Vanuatu islands where the
> vegetation is ever more dense.
> For these emergencies, the humanitarian organizations need a minimum of
> information for their logistic of operation.  For this task, instructions
> are to trace outbound of the residential areas and the major buildings plus
> the highways.
> Looking at a task that you validated previously, I see that the Bing
> imagery is clear enough to trace the highways and the outline around the
> residential areas. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/55
> Humanitarians plan to use an offline OSMand map to navigate. Maning is in
> the field interfacing with these organizations. He also added to the
> instruction panel links to Mapillary video. This help us to understand the
> context.
> Pierre
>   ------------------------------
>  *De :* john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> *À :* maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> *Cc :* HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> *Envoyé le :* Samedi 4 avril 2015 9h24
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Mapping IDP camps in Maguindanao, Philippines
> I've had a quick look, the houses are often low density and there are lots
> of them which makes mapping a cluster awkward, it also means that marking a
> tile done is difficult if any buildings are not mapped.  The tracks / roads
> can be difficult to pick out which again makes marking the tile done not
> easy.  Some clusters of housing don't appear to have any roads leading up
> to them but there is a lot of water around so I assume that is the method
> of transport.  Anyway I've quickly marked a few large landuse=residential
> on a few tiles so I hope that is of some use.  Realistically you need a lot
> more mappers from somewhere, much of the imagery is good but you need to
> zoom in.  Can you tap the locals in some way?  Especially for the
> requirement about picking out places of worships, schools and public
> buildings and these need to be done before the tile can be marked done if
> it is a requirement.;
> What might help is getting one tile mapped as an example of how you'd like
> the others mapped.
> Cheerio John
> On 31 March 2015 at 06:59, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Dear everyone,
> As always, thank you to the 10 contributors [0] who are helping with this
> task.
> I just uploaded some mapillary photos to help guide mappers what some
> of the features look like on the ground.
> Links are in the Instruction tab of the task [1].
> We are hoping the holy week ceasefire will decrease the military
> offensive [2] but IDP situation on the ground is not any way better.
> Once again this is not an urgent task nor a formal activation, but we
> appreciate any help you can extend.
> [0]
> http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ARMM#11/6.9949/124.3810
> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969
> [2] http://www.manilatimes.net/holy-week-ceasefire/173028/
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:21 AM, maning sambale
> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear HOTties,
> >
> > (cc OSM-PH)
> >
> > This is not an urgent task, but we are requesting any assistance you can
> extend.
> > There is an ongoing military operation in Maguindanao which affected
> 125K IDPs
> > [0 and 1].  I am in Cotabato right now assisting the ARMM-HEART (the
> > regional humanitarian agency) in using OSM in coordinating the
> > on-going response.
> >
> > Fieldwork is very challenging due to physical and security conditions.
> > We created a task to improve the baseamap.  The task is here:
> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969
> >
> > Advance thanks!
> >
> > [0]
> http://reliefweb.int/map/philippines/philippines-displacement-overview-central-mindanao-3-mar-2015
> > [1]
> http://data.ex2.georepublic.net:8080/geofuse/showtheme?layer=csvdata.mb_FA7FECF8C37F1AAD7A504FAA0876B6D0_2348
> > --
> > cheers,
> > maning
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> --
> cheers,
> maning
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