[HOT] Mapping IDP camps in Maguindanao, Philippines

maning sambale emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
Sun Apr 5 09:15:02 UTC 2015

Dear john,

Thank you very much for working on this job.  For an example of what I
think is complete, see my work on this task:

I agree that this is a very difficult task and, as you suggested, this
task might be best suited to focus just on roads and residential
areas. I will talk to ARMM-Heart this week to refine what data they
need and will revise the
instructions accordingly.  You are definitely correct that this task
is best suited for local PH-based mappers and, upon looking at the
changeset comment [0], majority of the mappers were PH based or at
least mapping the PH (this includes a few of the people we trained
when I went there to assist the IDP mapping request last week).

I foresee this as longer term response (not very urgent, but equally
important). I will probably be back (as a volunteer) on the field to
help the local responders but as I've said previously, security is a
concern so we map as much as we can remotely and integrate ground
validation to other humanitarian work.  Thanks again and your
contribution is very much appreciated.

[0] http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ARMM#11/6.9949/124.3810

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:35 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Given the resources available I think it would be better to reduce the scope
> and first map major roads and say settlements of more than five houses.  If
> I look at what has been mapped a lot of individual buildings have been
> mapped which is good but in the same time far more buildings could have been
> mapped in settlements.
> Currently I'm mapping another two projects both at 90+%, one one I'm
> practically the only mapper left and and the other a high priority one the
> number of active mappers completing tiles has dropped off considerably
> recently.
> So basically the concern if you like is this project is quite difficult to
> map all the attributes asked for, a sample tile would be useful.  To be
> honest unless it says on the roof in large friendly letters what it is it
> could be a barn, warehouse, school, public building or place of worship.  So
> you can map a tile for roads, settlements and large buildings that look
> interesting but you can't really tick the box to say its done and sometimes
> box ticking helps the motivation.  The Philippines might be the place to
> look for mappers who are motivated and know something about the area.
> Cheerio John
> On 4 April 2015 at 10:31, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> Hi John
>> Yes, this is important to zoom in enough. This is a tropical country and
>> there is dense vegetation that sometimes partly obscure the buildings. In
>> comparizon, it is easier then to map for the Vanuatu islands where the
>> vegetation is ever more dense.
>> For these emergencies, the humanitarian organizations need a minimum of
>> information for their logistic of operation.  For this task, instructions
>> are to trace outbound of the residential areas and the major buildings plus
>> the highways.
>> Looking at a task that you validated previously, I see that the Bing
>> imagery is clear enough to trace the highways and the outline around the
>> residential areas. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/55
>> Humanitarians plan to use an offline OSMand map to navigate. Maning is in
>> the field interfacing with these organizations. He also added to the
>> instruction panel links to Mapillary video. This help us to understand the
>> context.
>> Pierre
>> ________________________________
>> De : john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>> À : maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> Cc : HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>> Envoyé le : Samedi 4 avril 2015 9h24
>> Objet : Re: [HOT] Mapping IDP camps in Maguindanao, Philippines
>> I've had a quick look, the houses are often low density and there are lots
>> of them which makes mapping a cluster awkward, it also means that marking a
>> tile done is difficult if any buildings are not mapped.  The tracks / roads
>> can be difficult to pick out which again makes marking the tile done not
>> easy.  Some clusters of housing don't appear to have any roads leading up to
>> them but there is a lot of water around so I assume that is the method of
>> transport.  Anyway I've quickly marked a few large landuse=residential on a
>> few tiles so I hope that is of some use.  Realistically you need a lot more
>> mappers from somewhere, much of the imagery is good but you need to zoom in.
>> Can you tap the locals in some way?  Especially for the requirement about
>> picking out places of worships, schools and public buildings and these need
>> to be done before the tile can be marked done if it is a requirement.;
>> What might help is getting one tile mapped as an example of how you'd like
>> the others mapped.
>> Cheerio John
>> On 31 March 2015 at 06:59, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Dear everyone,
>> As always, thank you to the 10 contributors [0] who are helping with this
>> task.
>> I just uploaded some mapillary photos to help guide mappers what some
>> of the features look like on the ground.
>> Links are in the Instruction tab of the task [1].
>> We are hoping the holy week ceasefire will decrease the military
>> offensive [2] but IDP situation on the ground is not any way better.
>> Once again this is not an urgent task nor a formal activation, but we
>> appreciate any help you can extend.
>> [0]
>> http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ARMM#11/6.9949/124.3810
>> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969
>> [2] http://www.manilatimes.net/holy-week-ceasefire/173028/
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:21 AM, maning sambale
>> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear HOTties,
>> >
>> > (cc OSM-PH)
>> >
>> > This is not an urgent task, but we are requesting any assistance you can
>> > extend.
>> > There is an ongoing military operation in Maguindanao which affected
>> > 125K IDPs
>> > [0 and 1].  I am in Cotabato right now assisting the ARMM-HEART (the
>> > regional humanitarian agency) in using OSM in coordinating the
>> > on-going response.
>> >
>> > Fieldwork is very challenging due to physical and security conditions.
>> > We created a task to improve the baseamap.  The task is here:
>> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969
>> >
>> > Advance thanks!
>> >
>> > [0]
>> > http://reliefweb.int/map/philippines/philippines-displacement-overview-central-mindanao-3-mar-2015
>> > [1]
>> > http://data.ex2.georepublic.net:8080/geofuse/showtheme?layer=csvdata.mb_FA7FECF8C37F1AAD7A504FAA0876B6D0_2348
>> > --
>> > cheers,
>> > maning
>> > ------------------------------------------------------
>> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
>> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
>> > ------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>> cheers,
>> maning
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