[HOT] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Zaatari refugee camp, Jordan / UNHCR / REACH

Katja Ulbert mail at katja-ulbert.de
Mon Dec 21 11:11:02 UTC 2015


Hi Frederic,

I have been mapping the European refugee camps and boat landing areas on 
the Balkans and Greece since half a year. Most of them are not on OSM 
for security reasons and the sensitive data they contain which I collect 
from UNHCR, MSF and local volunteer groups. So by now I know  pretty 
much about refugee camp mapping. I also have XML presets and access to 
UNHCR data about daily arrivals and situation reports.

About the Jordan camps: they are UNHCR camps which means they have 
containers and are long-term. But they have grown for sure since the 
last two years, 150.000 people live in Zaatari at the moment. There is 
infrastructure, markets, shops and clinics. The Azraq camp is quite new 
and houses a much lower number of people (15 000) than it was built for 
(150.000). Because of the harsh conditions, refugees prefer to move out 
and/or start their journey to Europe. Other than the camp in Zaatari it 
is isolated and without community life. Syrian Refugees travelling to 
Europe usually come from this camp.

Happy to tell you more about this.

Katja
>
> FYI all. My contacts at REACH have moved on from it, does anyone here 
> have contacts with the current REACH Jordan team?
>
> In a larger sense these questions of sustainability and long-term 
> accuracy will be a recurring issue for humanitarian mapping of camps 
> so it would be good to explore this topic more. I would type some 
> thoughts but I'm on a tiny phone screen right now.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Frederik Ramm" <frederik at remote.org <mailto:frederik at remote.org>>
> Date: 21 Dec 2015 06:00
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Zaatari refugee camp, Jordan / UNHCR / REACH
> To: "Talk Openstreetmap" <talk at openstreetmap.org 
> <mailto:talk at openstreetmap.org>>
> Cc:
>
> Hi,
>
>    I see that there's a lot of detail mapped at this refugee camp
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=32.29460120201111&mlon=36.3242769241333#map=14/32.2946/36.3243
>
> but when inspecting things more closely, most information seems to come
> from imports that are more than a year old.
>
> How stable are camps like this - is it prudent to assume that either
>
> (a) if there was a greengrocer two years ago in a place, it will likely
> still be there?
>
> or
>
> (b) the people who have imported data two years ago as part of their
> job/project/assignment will still be around and change things as 
> necessary?
>
> or
>
> (c) people living in the camp have the necessary training and resources
> to take map updates into their own hands?
>
> I'd love to get in touch with people who mapped this camp, or others in
> the more recent past, for a couple of general refugee camp mapping
> questions.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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