[HOT] Level of user experience to focus on

Daniel O'Connor daniel.oconnor at gmail.com
Thu May 28 13:56:29 UTC 2015

I think https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1657 sort of started in
the right direction - the JOSM style, super complicated hard to understand
validation messages aren't what you want, but the more the editor can
suggest to me *small improvements I want to make *the better. If its real
time or on new contributions, well; fantastic - discourages bad data
getting in. That might not be feasible though.

You've previously said things like: "I think I might like it a little
better if iD did very little validation and had an API integration with a
dedicated validator like keepright." - that's probably a really feasible
incremental step.

Imagine the workflow:
 - New-ish user opens a tile in the tasking manager.
 - A flag to ID in the URL asks it to render the osmose error feed for that
bounding box
 - New-ish user sees a few buildings, roads, etc. One of them has a red
marker or outline on it.
 - User clicks on it, not having see it before - a message suggests that
this is tagged with landuse and is a building.
 - *Oops* thinks the user, *I thought about tagging like this, I guess
that's not right.* If we're lucky; *I wonder if I can fix it.*

Outcomes: user learns from the 'mistakes' of others, but it's still very
much suggestion based - more about gentle encouragement than having someone
down the track invalidate your work with a terse message you don't

That's... possibly a bit specific and maybe should be shifted into github
somewhere to be kicked around further; but yeah...

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Bryan Housel <bryan at 7thposition.com>

> To your second point: Are there specific things that I can prioritize in
> iD to make it more suitable for new users performing HOT tasks?  For
> example, I’ve made some progress on implementing a 2-click building drawing
> mode and hope to have that in the next iD release.  And presets are
> something that are very easy for us change too.
> Would be happy to start a conversation about this..
> Thanks, Bryan
> > On May 28, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rekth,
> >
> > That's a great question. My perspective, as an occasional HOT
> facilitator:
> >
> > The learning curve for people getting into HOT has two "steep bits".
> > The SECOND steep bit is advanced users learning how to use josm,
> > learning how to validate etc. I've actually been surprised that this
> > second steep bit doesn't seem too off-putting for people. The FIRST
> > steep bit is when they're still quite new and learning how to use the
> > TM, how to read aerial imagery, how to trace ways, etc. It's that
> > first bit where the Tasking Manager could help facilitate their
> > experience (especially since there are many complexities outside of
> > the Tasking Manager), and where the TM could make sure that they have
> > a positive, fluid experience that they feel good about repeating. So
> > personally, I'd certainly say focus on the first-time or second-time
> > visitors.
> >
> > Best
> > Dan
> >
> >
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