[HOT] GSoC 2016 Student Updates and Important Infomation

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Sun May 1 14:09:07 UTC 2016

Hi Darya,

I think you will find that there are some variations in how PT is mapped.
It is my impression the differences or "styles" are to some extent
regional. I think the best way to make everybody happy is to make things
configurable. Add stop_positions toroutesor not. Use the stop_positions as
the stops, instead of the platform nodes. I think I also saw details added
to the platform ways in France and Geermany.  It can be traced back to
historical reasons. Some appers apped stops as nodes that were part of the
highway, others like myself as separate nodes next to the ways. PT v2 was
an attempt to unify this by deprecating highway=bus_stop, but the people in
charge of the rendering never picked up on this.  This resulted in having
2nodes per bus stop... and people still don't agree which gets the legacy
tag. In Belgium I tried toto at least map them all in the same way, trying
to avoid duplicating information.

Op 1-mei-2016 2:51 PM schreef "Darya Golovko" <darya0705 at gmail.com>:

Hi Jo,

It was actually nice talking to the people, so it was definitely a good
idea to go. I can't say that I got detailed recommendations on the public
transport, but I got some communication on the topic of how the software
developer has the responsibility in such projects that they can influence
the way things are done, so they should consider how different people do
the things, and which way is more widespread.

Also, I got advice to look at taginfo.openstreetmap.org to see which tags
are used more or less frequently.

Yes, I did tell I was working on the PT plugin for JOSM. I got some
feedback, esp. such as: JOSM is a powerful tool, but it's complex.

Anyway, greetings from the Hack weekend,

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Darya,
> It probably didn't make sense to go back to the hackathon in that case. I
> was already a bit worried about not recognising any names in the
> participants list. But networking is always useful, I guess.
> Did you tell them you were going to work on the PT plugin later on? They
> might have given you feedback about how hard they think mapping it, is.
> Most people editing OSM data are afraid of touching those route relations
> or about having to figure out how they work.
> Enjoy your Sunday!
> Jo
> 2016-04-30 18:49 GMT+02:00 Darya Golovko <darya0705 at gmail.com>:
>> Arabic must be interesting. And probably hard enough. You got it right,
>> "for example" in the beginning was referring to: we can write russian, for
>> example this sentence about the weather. And "sit on the metro"="ride the
>> metro". The people here, in the hack weekend, are super nice, but not JOSM
>> developers. I will have to ask Jo. Have to go now, place is closing.
>> On Apr 30, 2016 5:53 PM, "Jo" <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You are right, maybe Ukraine could be an option. Now that I can read the
>>> cyrillic letters and read some basic words, the following language
>>> 'project' is on the horizon: to learn Arabic. But there are very few
>>> countries were this language is spoken that really appeal to me. Oddly, I
>>> wouldn't, for example, mind to go and visit Siberia. I understand the
>>> southern part is quite nice during the summer.
>>> Anyway, I'd like to be able to read those scribbly letters and
>>> experience what it's like to write from right to left :-)
>>> OK, without using Google translate, I think I understand the following:
>>> ???, now Berlin is a beautiful place/city. I (verb) by metro and train
>>> to the hackathon.
>>> Uh oh, after using Google translate, I notice I quite misread that:
>>> For example, now in Berlin, the weather is good. I sit on the subway and
>>> go to the Hackathon
>>> We learned weather. I should have understood that. And what I thought
>>> meant train was of course also a conjugated verb.
>>> But it's good practice. cpacibo. (I should reinstall that cyrillic
>>> keyboard layout...)
>>> I hope you're enjoying the company of fellow hackers at the hackathon.
>>> Jo
>>> 2016-04-30 14:16 GMT+02:00 Darya Golovko <darya0705 at gmail.com>:
>>>> Mmmm. Maybe Ukraine could be an option since they don't require visas
>>>> and its' not too far away so it shouldn't cost as much. But I don't know of
>>>> any particular project I could recommend. At some point I tried to apply
>>>> for some volunteering project in a natural park in Russia, but almost noone
>>>> is willing to pay for the tickets to get there (even if you agree to work
>>>> for multiple months), and some won't even provide food or pick you up from
>>>> the nearest station, so I didn't succeed.
>>>> We could have some talks or messages in Russian if you want to.
>>>> Например, сейчас в Берлине хорошая погода. Я сяду на метро и поеду на
>>>> хакатон. :)
>>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Wow, that's great! I enjoyed that I was able to have a look around
>>>>> myself. I also hope that another occasion to practice the bit or Russian I
>>>>> learned will present itself. I need to go to a place where everyone speaks
>>>>> Russian though. Like a complete 'immersion'.
>>>>> Enjoy your weekend!
>>>>> Jo
>>>>> 2016-04-30 12:44 GMT+02:00 Darya Golovko <darya0705 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Hi Jo,
>>>>>> Thanks for the links. I think I was in that tower near Bishkek.
>>>>>> Unless there are lots that look the same.
>>>>>> Have a nice Saturday,
>>>>>> Darya
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Darya,
>>>>>>> You only need to make changes if they are needed. The abstract is
>>>>>>> still fine. Maybe it makes sense to change the title, as we're not going to
>>>>>>> Improve the existing plugin, but rather start from scratch.
>>>>>>> Maybe:
>>>>>>> Public Transport Assistant Plugin for JOSM
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> Public Transport Made Easy Plugin for JOSM :-)
>>>>>>> Here your find the highlights of the screencasts I created:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>>>>>>> The archeological site in Kyrgyzstan based on Mapillary pictures:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
>>>>>>> Part 2:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736
>>>>>>> Jo
>>>>>>> 2016-04-30 11:46 GMT+02:00 Darya Golovko <darya0705 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:15 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: GSoC 2016 Student Updates and Important Infomation
>>>>>>>> To: darya0705 at gmail.com
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