[HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

Andrew Wiseman awiseman at gmail.com
Mon Oct 3 19:16:21 UTC 2016

Hi John,

There are a number of other tutorial videos here on the HOT Youtube page
that have subtitles in English, Spanish and some in French:



On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The French tutorial is actually very useful.  I'm working in the odd
> corners of Africa at the moment.  The mappers come from all over the world
> often working in maperthons.
> I think my hang up is data quality so I mainly do validation these days.
> I think in the last week I've tagged over a hundred untagged ways or
> area=yes, I wouldn't like to say how many highway=road I've retagged in the
> last week but its in the hundreds.  Highway=road unfortunately is the tag
> given to GPS tracks that have been converted into a highway where the
> person who does the conversion doesn't know if there are steps in a
> footpath or if its a motorway.  As a result many of routing programs will
> ignore them.
> Another problem is new mappers not completing a tile then other new
> mappers coming along behind and copying the first mappers mistakes.
> Because the tile hasn't been completed even if there is a validator on the
> project it doesn't get validated or corrected so the problems get
> compounded.
> Actually another problem I'm seeing is all the highways within a
> landuse=residential being tagged highway=residential.  Fine until you
> realise that the routing software will try to avoid routing traffic down
> backstreets and suddenly there is no routable path across the town.
> So in some parts of the map perhaps 30% or more of the work is ignored
> until its retagged and that's what I'm trying to avoid by finding ways to
> make JOSM easier to use.
> Blake's videos are great but unfortunately he speaks with an American
> accent.  I find it fairly easy to understand but there are people in the
> world whose first language is English who will have to rewind once or twice
> to catch the words.  Accents are regional, believe it or not some people
> even have problems with my English accent.  Looking at the mappers I'm
> validating the ones with the most problems are those who use English as a
> second language or even just Bing / Google translate it.  The French
> tutorial is much more useful for them as they can cut and paste it into
> Google or Bing translate.
> On a side note I'm handholding a Statistics Canada project at the moment
> so any French documentation is very useful to feed back to them.  The
> project is about adding data to OpenStreetMap then doing some stats on the
> result.  The cultures at Stats and OSM are very different but its coming
> along quite nicely albeit a little slower than their project manager would
> like.
> Cheerio John
> On 2 October 2016 at 04:50, Martin Noblecourt <m_noblecourt at cartong.org>
> wrote:
>> Hi John,
>> We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here,
>> would it be relevant to translate it?):
>> http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-ope
>> nstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/
>> Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.
>> Best
>> Martin
>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
>> From: Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com> <bgirardot at gmail.com>
>> To: john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org> <hot at openstreetmap.org> <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
>> 	tutorial?
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>> Hi John,
>> Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
>> covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
>> it comes across though):
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU
>> Feedback from your friend welcome.
>> Regards,
>> Blake
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin, how> to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to> select Bing imagery.>> How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on the> right.>> And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.>> Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been told> that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after them> with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite> capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map a> relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.>> Thanks John>> _______________________________________________> HOT mailing list> HOT at openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot>
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