[HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

Mon Oct 3 21:57:10 UTC 2016

For a general JOSM guide, you can use the documentation made by the data
team at Mapbox. Its been designed to be more visual than text heavy, and
includes advanced guides for validations, shortcuts and plugins:

https://www.mapbox.com/mapping/

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:06 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was being lazy and didn't want to search through a hundred tutorials to
> find what was needed.  I wanted something fairly quickly to correct someone
> who was mapping iD fairly quickly and productively but was making classic
> mistakes that JOSM catches.  I gave him some feedback and they seem to have
> settled down now.
>
> The written one in French works well, its easy to translate to other
> languages.  The mappers I seem to be dealing with first language is not
> English, French or Spanish so the videos aren't quite so useful.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 3 October 2016 at 15:16, Andrew Wiseman <awiseman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> There are a number of other tutorial videos here on the HOT Youtube page
>> that have subtitles in English, Spanish and some in French:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/hotosm/videos
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The French tutorial is actually very useful.  I'm working in the odd
>>> corners of Africa at the moment.  The mappers come from all over the world
>>> often working in maperthons.
>>>
>>> I think my hang up is data quality so I mainly do validation these
>>> days.  I think in the last week I've tagged over a hundred untagged ways or
>>> area=yes, I wouldn't like to say how many highway=road I've retagged in the
>>> last week but its in the hundreds.  Highway=road unfortunately is the tag
>>> given to GPS tracks that have been converted into a highway where the
>>> person who does the conversion doesn't know if there are steps in a
>>> footpath or if its a motorway.  As a result many of routing programs will
>>> ignore them.
>>>
>>> Another problem is new mappers not completing a tile then other new
>>> mappers coming along behind and copying the first mappers mistakes.
>>> Because the tile hasn't been completed even if there is a validator on the
>>> project it doesn't get validated or corrected so the problems get
>>> compounded.
>>>
>>> Actually another problem I'm seeing is all the highways within a
>>> landuse=residential being tagged highway=residential.  Fine until you
>>> realise that the routing software will try to avoid routing traffic down
>>> backstreets and suddenly there is no routable path across the town.
>>>
>>> So in some parts of the map perhaps 30% or more of the work is ignored
>>> until its retagged and that's what I'm trying to avoid by finding ways to
>>> make JOSM easier to use.
>>>
>>> Blake's videos are great but unfortunately he speaks with an American
>>> accent.  I find it fairly easy to understand but there are people in the
>>> world whose first language is English who will have to rewind once or twice
>>> to catch the words.  Accents are regional, believe it or not some people
>>> even have problems with my English accent.  Looking at the mappers I'm
>>> validating the ones with the most problems are those who use English as a
>>> second language or even just Bing / Google translate it.  The French
>>> tutorial is much more useful for them as they can cut and paste it into
>>> Google or Bing translate.
>>>
>>> On a side note I'm handholding a Statistics Canada project at the moment
>>> so any French documentation is very useful to feed back to them.  The
>>> project is about adding data to OpenStreetMap then doing some stats on the
>>> result.  The cultures at Stats and OSM are very different but its coming
>>> along quite nicely albeit a little slower than their project manager would
>>> like.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 2 October 2016 at 04:50, Martin Noblecourt <m_noblecourt at cartong.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here,
>>>> would it be relevant to translate it?):
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-ope
>>>> nstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/
>>>>
>>>> Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
>>>> From: Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com> <bgirardot at gmail.com>
>>>> To: john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org> <hot at openstreetmap.org> <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
>>>> 	tutorial?
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> 	<CABmB++QFrwk1XjBLh5PPYd445+TUri0uUUP=LTLgpR0Mc8rLJw at mail.gmail.com> <CABmB++QFrwk1XjBLh5PPYd445+TUri0uUUP=LTLgpR0Mc8rLJw at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
>>>> covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
>>>> it comes across though):
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU
>>>>
>>>> Feedback from your friend welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Blake
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin, how> to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to> select Bing imagery.>> How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on the> right.>> And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.>> Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been told> that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after them> with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite> capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map a> relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.>> Thanks John>> _______________________________________________> HOT mailing list> HOT at openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot>
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