[HOT] sporadic validation report

[Mikel Maron]

Let's stop apologizing to Bryan and figure out how HOT can practically do better to support a vibrant developer community. It's not about more mailing list discussion, but clarity and leadership and how to be productive.
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron 

    On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, 2:06:23 PM EST, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <blake.girardot at hotosm.org> wrote:  
 
 Hi Bryan,

I just want to echo what Russ said, and let you know how much I and
everyone at HOT appreciates how much you have done for the
OpenStreetMap community. The iD editor and your work specifically, has
made the OpenStreetMap project and open geospatial data creation
accessible to 10's of thousands of people around the world. It is a
tool that people can use to improve their lives and their communities
and it helped OSM become the critically important project that it is
today.

I also know how much you have personally done for HOT above and beyond
your regular iD editor wizardry.

I sincerely apologize we as an organization did not do a better job
make sure you knew how much we appreciated you and your contribution
to OSM.

Respectfully,
blake

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Russell Deffner
<russell.deffner at hotosm.org> wrote:
> Bryan,
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> I hope you know that HOT appreciates all you do; personally I don’t disagree
> with leaving communication channels that are more frustration than anything
> else.  My point being, that message was against the Code of Conduct for all
> community members participating in HOT related tools and platforms,
> including this public list.  However, retaliating against HOT the
> organization because of one ‘random’ person’s email, I don’t agree with.
> Everyone should consider that they are communicating with other human beings
> and when IRL does that kind of communication work to get the results you’re
> after?
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> If there is anything I can do to moderate and send people to the correct
> means to ‘air their grievance’ you are welcome to contact me directly,
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> =Russ
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> Russell Deffner
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> Voting Member+
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> Email: Russell.Deffner at hotosm.org
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> OSM/Skype: russdeffner
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> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)
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> Web | Wiki | Blog | Contact | Donate – Please Help Us #MapTheDifference
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> From: Bryan Housel [mailto:bryan at 7thposition.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:57 AM
> To: Russell Deffner
> Cc: Ralf Stephan; osm-hot
> Subject: Re: [HOT] sporadic validation report
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> Russ I *am* on this mailing list.  But good news for all of you - I’m
> unsubscribing.
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> I don’t prioritize features for people or organizations who hate me.
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> Thanks though,
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> Bryan
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> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Russell Deffner <russell.deffner at hotosm.org>
> wrote:
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> Hi Ralf,
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> I hope it doesn’t need much explaining, but that message doesn’t belong on
> the HOT mailing list for 2 reasons.  1) The iD developers are not
> necessarily on the HOT mailing list (this list is for discussing things
> related to the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) https://hotosm.org).
> 2) The message is in conflict with our Code of Conduct
> https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct#fullversion
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> It would be unfortunate if we need to so quickly put the new community CoC
> into practice, but this message would be a good example for when to put our
> foot down.
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> Please take a break and think before corresponding with us,
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> =Russ
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> Russell Deffner
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> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)
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> Web | Wiki | Blog | Contact | Donate – Please help us #mapthedifference!
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> From: Ralf Stephan [mailto:gtrwst9 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:45 AM
> To: hot at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [HOT] sporadic validation report
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> Hello,
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> just now 5 out of 5 people that registered within the last 24 hours and
> worked on task #3939 did not square their buildings. I hate you, iD devs.
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