[Imports] Hungarian CLC import

[László Csatlós]

Hi,

I discussed this with the local community and finally we changed the
followings on the new release of CLC data:
- completely remove tag CLC:code (because of redundance)
- completely remove tag CLC:surfaceoverlay (meaningless, it isn't in the
original tag, just accidentaly added)
- replace source tag from the long "© EEA, Koppenhága (2009); Készítette a
FÖMI a KvVM megbízásából (2009)" to "CLC_HUN"

About CLC:id: We keep them because of the easier update and indentification
later. It is not much work to delete them in a batch.

I already added the old copyright notes to our local CLC import page on
Wiki, but as I read your advice, I will add to the contributors, too.

Jaak, our community already decided we will go through the import. We
think, nobody never should to say "a map is complete", because you will
always could make corrections, additional infos, POIs, etc... But if
somebody sees our map and doesn't see anything just a huge white map,
he/she won't take it seriously.

Another viewpoint: If there is nothing on the map, I have to draw
everything from the begining. It is so much, I rather search another map
with lesser work.

To not to discourage the newbies is a bad cause. If we don't do difficult
things, we don't have any relations at all, not just landuse, but public
transports, and so on...
I think a certain quality could come from hard-working importers who fit
the incorrect raw import data to bing and makes a usable, nice map.

Laci


2012/11/5 Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com>

> OSM attribution is done through listing on
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors not through source tags
> which can be (and frequently are) removed.****
>
> ** **
>
> I remain skeptical of the value of CLC:code in cases where the CLC:code
> maps to only one combination of OSM tags. The code can be inferred from the
> tags that were used on import, so there is no additional information.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* uzemelteto at gmail.com [mailto:uzemelteto at gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Balázs
> Szalkai
> *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2012 5:12 AM
> *To:* Paul Norman; imports at openstreetmap.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Imports] Hungarian CLC import****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi,****
>
> ** **
>
> The exact attribution text (© EEA, Koppenhága (2009); Készítette a FÖMI a
> KvVM megbízásából (2009)) is specified by the organizations who made the
> dataset. See
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-April/057501.html This
> source tag identifies all data that comes from the Hungarian CLC dataset.*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> I didn't find any specific description for CLC:id and CLC:code on the
> wiki, though several national CLC pages list them. As far as I know, CLC:id
> is a unique id assigned to the polygons, while CLC:code does indicate the
> landuse type. CLC:code is a three-digit number with all digits ranging from
> 1 to 5. For a legend see
> http://eusoils.jrc.ec.europa.eu/library/data/efsa/Images/Legend_Corine.pdf
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> I think this key should be kept because its values do not correspond
> exactly to OSM landuse= or natural= tags, so it does mean extra information.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> wrote:****
>
> Is it possible to use a source key that makes it clear that it’s CLC?****
>
>  ****
>
> Are the values for CLC:code and CLC:id listed on the wiki?****
>
>  ****
>
> If CLC:code indicates the landuse type, is there any value to it if it is
> duplicating the tagging?****
>
> _______________________________________________
> Imports mailing list
> Imports at openstreetmap.org
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/attachments/20121105/ac7ae067/attachment.html>