[Imports] Import field areas in Viersen, Germany with place=locality

[Christian Haeske]

The names are the official names from the cadastral plan.
They are shown in walkingmaps and waking guides (particular the older ones) refer to them.
Thats why we want to import them.
In the walking maps it looks like the cartographer mentions only the names that fit in the map as long as it looks good.
Some names are more often on maps than others but that is not consistend over different maps.
We want to import all names, without  that aesthetic aspect.

We have also the outlines of the places, but that would be overkill and we don´t want to import them since they have mostly no visual analogy.
In all walking maps these places are allways marked only by their name. That are names like "Three oaks" "Pine Hill" and something like that.
These are all places without a road (in terms of address, a track or path doesn´t count). When a road is build to that place, then the road normally gets that name (or with the addition "road") and the "locality" name disappears.

christian

----- Original Message -----
From: jaakko at helleranta.com
To: christian at haeske.net, imports at openstreetmap.org
Date: 16.05.2013 00:50:22
Subject: Re: [Imports] Import field areas in Viersen, Germany with place=locality


> Are these "field areas" just fields with a name or are they actually places?
> 
> I'm not on a very solid ground here but I know some farmyard fields and meadows, etc with names (in my native Finland) but that I wouldn't call localities.
> 
> I'd think of locality as a place with a name that at least people who live there would (usually) know.
> 
> If you have the boundaries (areas) of these "field areas" you could also just add a name tag to the which ever other appropriate tag fits them (farmland, meadow, pitch, etc). If that suites them better, of course.
> Nominatim will pick up all place names. And the name tag is obviously available for all data users. And it renders, too (on areas). 
> 
> On the other hand: if they are localities then it's simple/clear that you should use that tag.
> 
> -Jaakko
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Haeske <christian at haeske.net>
> Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 23:24:16 
> To: <imports at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [Imports] Import field areas in Viersen, Germany with place=locality
> 
> Hi,
> 
> the Land Registry of Viersen (NRW/Germany) gave us the names of
> Fieldareas (german=Gewannen) of Viersen.
> We want to import them with place=locality. (place with no population)
> There are 2900 places with names within the area of Viersen.
> The only disadvantage of the chosen tagging is the presentation of that
> names in Mapnik in an early zoom level (>=14)
> Nevertheless, this seems to be the best solution for that places but
> better suggestions are welcome.
> 
> The data from the Land Registry is released under the ODbL and CC by-sa
> license.
> 
> The imports are also marked with source = Katasteramt_Kreis_Viersen
> A special user was generated also for import:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Shape_Import_Viersen
> 
> You can see an example of four places here:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.25254&lon=6.36924&zoom=16&layers=M
> ( An de Beginneplänk / Buyteerste Feld / Am Aachener Weg / Schlippesdell)
> 
> The german documentation of the imports ( most of them, like the
> building, are already done) :
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Niederrhein/Viersen/Stammtisch/Import
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Greg, Christian and the osm community of Viersen (
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Niederrhein/Viersen/Stammtisch/Import )
> 
> 
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